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Could This Be Fake?

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 Posted 04/27/2012  2:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add R-Dawkins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, I'm thinking of purchasing this coin, just want to get advice from the very knowlegable people here first.. is this fake? It kinda looks too nice..

Ancient Greek Silver Stater of the City of Elis (Olympia) 323 -191 BC


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 Posted 04/27/2012  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know much about these types of coins, but the overall appearance looks real to me. Nice coin.
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 Posted 04/27/2012  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It kinda looks too nice..
At first glance, without knowing these coins, the detail, toning, and centering are really perfect. Does the seller offer a guarantee? The best dealers of ancients will offer a lifetime guarantee of authenticity.

I wouldn't buy a coin like this without an airtight guarantee, knowing something about the seller, and lastly checking the coin against the known databases of fakes:

Forum ancient coins fake database

The ForgeryNetwork database

Check out these databases--I'll take a quick look too.
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 Posted 04/27/2012  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Update: The coin in question is a fake, probably with fake dies. documented here.

I have pointed out some small matching details. But, outside of some toning and flan differences, everything basically matches on these two--there is no question.

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 Posted 04/27/2012  4:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add R-Dawkins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Phew! so its fake? wow.. THAT is why I love this forum and you knowlegable lot! Thanks :) I think I will notify the seller as I dont think he is aware of it because he has 100% positive rating (not ebay, but a local site). Thanks again
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 Posted 04/27/2012  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's why I haven't gotten into these coin type yet, I would have been fooled it looked good to me. Glad that DVC is here to school me.
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dito here
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Glad that DVC is here to school me.
Thanks--but all I did was check the fake databases, linked above.
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 Posted 04/28/2012  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
=> Nice catch, DVC
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