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DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 04/30/2012 5:01 pm I was surprised to find this on a Greek AE I recently bought. In the right light, you can see a crack (white arrows) leading to a raised area (black arrows) that looks like a missing chunk of the die. I guess I've always thought that when a hand-held die breaks, they would discard it immediately, but apparently they kept striking with this one. Once again, the whole coin--I really like this one. Edited by DVCollector 04/30/2012 5:02 pm Report this Post to the Staff

dougsmit Pillar of the Community United States 1549 Posts	Posted 04/30/2012 5:44 pm Dies cost money to make and some were used until they really had no choice. This Syracusan tetradrachm is from reverse (portrait) die R481 late state showing a large break behind and above the head. The strike team favored that side so it is flat struck there compared to the face, I assume in the hope of making it last until the cutters could finish a replacement die. I can not afford to collect these by die but I have often wished to own a Boehringer catalog to study them. Report this Post to the Staff
ancientcoinguy Pillar of the Community United States 842 Posts	Posted 04/30/2012 5:45 pm Wow! I have never seen a Cud on an ancient before. What a great find. It just adds to the allure of this beautiful coin. - Jealous in PA Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 04/30/2012 6:24 pm Doug, that makes perfect sense--and thanks for showing that nice example of a break! I suspect I got the wrong impression from studying examples of Athens tetradrachms, which I seldom see with any die breaks or cuds--but I have never seen die matches showing a progression of die life. Report this Post to the Staff
dougsmit Pillar of the Community United States 1549 Posts	Posted 04/30/2012 9:03 pm Within the last month I saw a die match to this Aigina stater with its large Cud offered for sale by auction online. This Gordian Provincial reverse is cracked and bent to the point that it can not be well struck on both bottom and top at the same time. There is no piece missing so there is no Cud but the crack is bad. The most common die showing the rare obverse legend ending IIC for Septimius Severus is unusual since the defect at 1 o'clock did not seem to progress but appears on all coins I have seen from the die at the same degree of severity. I don't look for cracks and Cuds but I don't discriminate against them either. Report this Post to the Staff
jessvc1 Pillar of the Community United States 2596 Posts	Posted 04/30/2012 9:48 pm I don't have any damaged die, or error varieties for ancients yet but it would be neat to build a small set of these coins for reference material. Very interesting coins posted here. Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 05/01/2012 12:01 am Doug, that's an interesting group of coins! The die on the Gordian must have fallen apart soon after. Report this Post to the Staff
VisigothKing Pillar of the Community United States 4778 Posts	Posted 05/01/2012 12:13 am Interesting thread Report this Post to the Staff
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