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Help Identifying Chineese Cash Coin

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 Posted 05/06/2012  04:43 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rosso_rubino to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,
can somebody help identifying this coin, I verified with 2 chineese cash catalogues (David Hartill, Schjoth) and I found some equality in the early Northern Dynasty (Shen Zong 1068 - 1085), but I have some doubts.

thanks so much



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 Posted 05/06/2012  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "Yuan" is old "seal script" or similar and the "tong" is oddly shaped too, but the other characters look more orthodox. I believe it's a Vietnamese imitation of the old Chinese coin, one of a class of coins known as "floaters" because they're so thin and light, they'll float on water.

Check the size and weight; genuine Song Dynasty cash are typically about 3 to 4 grams and over 25mm across. The Vietnamese floaters are typically less than 2 grams and smaller than 22mm across.
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According to Chinese sources I have seen, this coin (.'e宝) is usually attributed to the Tran Dynasty (e朝) of Annam (Vietnam) and is believed to have been cast during the years 1251-1257.

One article specifically stated that it is not considered a "floater".

This Chinese website was selling the same coin about a year ago for about US$0.50 (3 yuan).

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 Posted 05/07/2012  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add davidhartill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is from Vietnam (Annam). It is one in a series of unofficial coins, typified by the An Phap coin, probably cast in the 17th/18th century. The inscription reads Nguyen Huu Thong Bao, characters taken from N. Song Chinese coins but with no meaning here.
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 Posted 05/11/2012  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rosso_rubino to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank-you so much for your help and knowledge, actually appreciated.
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 Posted 05/19/2012  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rosso_rubino to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
weight is 1.40 g. and size I 21 mm. anyway do you a book or a cataloge of Vietnamese cash coins ?
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