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Pillar of the Community
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Check out the following ebay item: http://www.ebay.com/itm/18088729880...t_1295wt_952Note that this seller has a few similar coins, stamped, up for bids. While the coins are "vintage" to the date or era struck, the counterstamps are likely not. This is yet another example of how "turning a phrase" can perhaps influence the perceived history and value of a coin. Counterstamped coins with logos or pictorials are quite popular. There are relatively few of those, dating back to the 1800's; those being well-documented. Collectors need to be wary of so-called "vintage" items in general. IMHO. the term "vintage" is a buzzword that's all to often misused. Getting back to this item, the coin is very worn, the sort that one will often see in a dealer's bargain box. The counterstamp has a relatively new, comparatively sharp look about it. Anyone thinking of collecting counterstamped coins should take a good look at these modern-made "vintage" coins. |
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I cannot think of one good reason for anyone to counterstamp such a worn coin, if anything, they should have taken it to an engraver and turn it into a "Love Token", although it wouldn't be VINTAGE... Counter Stamps are common on World Coins when their Country re-values their coins and currency... It was also very common in the 17th & 18th Century for Nations to mint new coins over the same denomination older coins... Somewhere on this forum I posted a 1701 France ECU (Silver Crown Size) that was minted over a 1694 France ECU... When I contacted NGC and asked them why they didn't tag my coin as a double struck, struck over a earlier date on the holder, they replied that was normal procedure back then and not considered a error coin...
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 Nice find ExoGuy Thank You for the heads up did like the tiger stamp   |
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I concur with Exo.
I examined the specimen. It is NOT in my opinion, contemporary to the era. In fact, if you look closely, you will see areas within the stamp which reveal unoxidized silver.
Edited by CheetahCats
05/21/2012 01:21 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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The counterstamps are much too sharp for being on host coins with a high degree of wear, a strong indication that they are not contemporary to each other.
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It is entirely plausible for a sharp counterstamp to exist on a very worn coin. Counterstamps were struck onto coins regardless of wear. That is to say, one cannot assume that coin wear is an indicator of counterstamp wear. Here are a few examples where the sharpness of counterstamps vary with the wear of the host coin:     Edited by CheetahCats
05/21/2012 02:29 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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Yes, I should have said counterstamps that are sharp, i.e. showing no wear at all, and lacking patination are strong indicators that the stamp is not contemporary.
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Speaking of contemporary counterstamps, here is one that I have done. It was inspired by the new nickels with the offset Jefferson, leaving a perfect spot for a little word-bubble. Note that a matching reverse die keeps the coin from being badly deformed.   This piece has been made more or less continuously since 2006, and has been struck on EVERY date and mintmark of Jefferson nickel. (When it's on the old style it goes in the middle) There are now over 14,000 of these in existence, most of them are likely in circulation. They continue to be made, but now by somebody else as I sold the press and dies to another counterstamping enthusiast. Edited by tmaring
05/21/2012 11:18 am
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Thats why known Brunk counterstamps fetch much higher prices than unidentified specimens. Anyone can use a punch set on a coin but it reveals metal not previously exposed. It's a mini logic puzzle. Who, when, where, and why would this have occured.
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