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Attached are a couple of dollar errors I have. The Loon struck through washer was previously posted on this forum so sorry if you already saw it. The 1982 is struck on a 25 cent Barbados Planchet.

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I recently checked the RCM records for 1982. The RCM did not mint 25c Barbados coins in 1982. So if your coin weighs 5.6 grams, that means that it would have to been struck on a 1981 Barbados 25c planchet? I find that a bit puzzling, because the 1982 Constitution dollar struck for circulation was produced in the 1982 calendar year. It was first presented by the Minister of Supply and Services to Queen Elizabeth II, during her Royal visit to Canada (April 17). The Minister announced then, that the coin would be available to the public by July 1.

So did mint workers just have a handful of 1981 Barbados planchets just lying around in late spring of 1982? Note that the RCM made New Zealand 10c coins in 1982, on Cu-Ni planchets with specifications of 5.67 grams. The planchet compositions and weights are exact for Barbados 25c and New Zealand 10c, if not the same. I think the RCM used the exact same planchets, for both of these country's coins.

1981 Barbados 25c 5.6 g 23.6 mm (4,365,000 mintage)

1982 New Zealand 10c 5.66 g 23.62 mm (18,000,000 mintage)

Even if the planchets are the same, I wonder if it is the intent of the end-product of that planchet, is how it should be designated? In my opinion, the best explanation is that these examples were struck on a 1982 New Zealand 10c piece (a production coin for the same year). Occam's razor applies here.

By the way, my coin weighs 5.63 grams... do either of you have weight measurements for your examples?
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There is the possibility that the mint struck the 1981 coins in early 82 . They don't have to strike the coins with the current years date . Then again it could be the new zealand one . Although there has been many great attempts to publish which country/denomination the RCM struck coins for , it is incomplete . Mr. Glassfords site being the best of the best :-) .
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Looking through my records I had mine recorded as a barbados 25 cent but the weight notation says 5.5 g . It is in a holder so I can't re weigh it . Been a long time since it was weighed , must have been some reason I put the barbados designation - maybe I messed up :-). The 81 one has 5.6 g noted .
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Mine weighs 5.5 grams. Mr Glassford attributed it although NGC slabbed it as struck on foreign planchet. It's not uncommon to have a planchet from a prior year make its way into the next year's production. The New Zealand planchet at 5.66 grams and the Barbados at 5.6 grams, if both correct, would lean towards our lighter 5.5 gram planchet being Barbados. Other than that, the two countries planchets are very similar.
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It could also be a function of how the data was recorded. Note that the 1981 RCM reports reported planchets to 1 decimal place, and the 1982 reports to two decimal places. I think they used the same planchet...

So, in the end, we are both right... because prior to striking, a blank planchet is just that - a blank planchet....
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