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Hello coin community,

I am hoping you can help identify any sought after coins and values of them.

They were given to me probably 10 years ago and I have recently decided to find out more about them.

Firstly I shall apologise for the odd non English coin in with them and hope the image host is acceptable as I am not a member of image shack.

I scanned them all at once because I don't have a scanner myself,the image host has downgraded the quality but the originals are 300dpi I can upload them to a file host in their orignal state for download if necessary.

I have had the older coins identified by the colchester museum but have had none of them valued.

Thank you in advance for any help you can give.

Darren.

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I have added a picture with grouping and numbers so its easier to know what people are talking about.

Here are the links to the 300dpi pictures if you need them:
http://www.freefilehosting.net/file0300
http://www.freefilehosting.net/file0301

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 Posted 06/05/2012  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darrenj76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
just to add something the 1/2d model coin at the bottom was inside the two halves of the coin case next to it to the left.

I also have a copper imitation half sovereign dated 1887 whether there is any interest in these imitations I do not know.

I have some other coins as well that are not in the picture such as half farthings three hexagonal three pence coins,square balliwick of Guernsey coins,and some other mid 1900's half pennys with Victoria on,I didn't include them because I thought they were too recent to be of any interest.
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 Posted 06/05/2012  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anaximander to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Might be an idea to post one of the pictures again with the coins numbered, so it is clear which coin we are talking about.
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 Posted 06/05/2012  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darrenj76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yeah good thinking I shall do it in the morning and upload both original pictures to a file host as well.
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 Posted 06/05/2012  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coins! My personal favorites would be Maundy, Britannia groats, and hammered ones - (I believe) a groat of Henry VIII, sixpence of Elizabeth I, and a penny of an early Edward.

I'd say take pics of fewer coins at a time and do more close-ups so we could attribute (and valuate) them better.


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Firstly I shall apologise for the odd non English coin in with them ...

A see a few. First, the two above the hammered ones look like ancients (although they could be Roman/provincial coins circulating in Britain - I'm not an expert on this).

Second, I see a Jersey coin (with three lions), and two Guernsey ones, valued in "doubles".

Third, I see a Canadian "Bluenose" among 3d's and 4d's.

Fourth, I see Spanish Alfonso under the hammered penny, most likely 5 centimos.

Fifth, going down from Alfonso, below Victoria medal, there's 5 fils from Bahrain. And below that, I can't really see, but it looks rather Belgian than British.

And finally, on the bottom, to the left of the " 1/2d model coin and the two halves of the coin case next to it" there is a German Imperial pfennig.
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 Posted 06/06/2012  07:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darrenj76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
you have a good eye svslav,the two roman coins are romulus and remus the founders of rome suckling from the mother wolfs teet,and the other is a two soldiers two standards.

It is an edward I penny and correct with the elizabeth and the herny viii,these are the only ones I had prior information on.

Thanks for your reply :)
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 Posted 06/06/2012  08:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Darren,
The interesting ones are those made of Silver in Group C. If you can do close ups of those they could be better evaluated. The copper ones are probably quite common, albeit interesting.
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Thanks Mike for the reply,

Unfortunately I dont have a scanner myself,i have uploaded the 300dpi scans of both sides of all the coins to a file host linked in the first post but thats all I can doo for now,take a look they might be of good enough quality but I'm no expert :)

If they are not good enough I shall have to go round to my friends house again and re scan individual ones of interest to people.

Darren.



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 Posted 06/06/2012  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most of us use digital cameras in Macro mode Darren; you can get a really good close-up then, although you need to experiment with the lighting.
Occasionally you can find that 'flash' will produce a reasonable result; depends on the camera.
The old Silver ones in group C are the ones we'd like to see in close-up. As a guide 300 to 500 pixels square are probably the best sizes to aim for and post here.
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 Posted 06/06/2012  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anaximander to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin C8 is a Jersey 1/26 of a shilling, the old copper type. They were minted in 1841, 1844, 1851, 1858 and 1861. I cannot quite make out the year on yours.

In 1841 Jersey began circulating British-style coppers to replace previous French ones. As there were 26 French sou to one British shilling, this meant that there were effectively 13 "pennies" in the shilling, with your 1/26 of a shilling counting for 1 sou.

In 1866 these coins were minted smaller and in bronze, following the similar change in British coppers in 1860. Copper did not wear as well as bronze, and was becoming expensive. This would account for the dented edge on your coin. Having 13 pennies to the shilling was awkward, so in 1877 it changed to 12 to the shilling. This is why penny-sized coins are labelled 1/13 of a shilling before that date and 1/12 of a shilling afterwards, and halfpenny coins being 1/26 and then 1/24 of a shilling.

My coin catalogue (2012) rates these coins at around £50 in extremely fine. I am just a beginner when it comes to grading, but would not rate yours that high. On ebay I see them going for around £3-£10.

Hope this helps
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 Posted 06/06/2012  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darrenj76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks anaximander, yes that has helped,nice information for me.
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@MikeG

I shall do the scans as soon as possible

someone else pointed out that I have two set of maundy money in there with the same toning on one set of 4 1897 coins and another set of 4 1899 coins,are they desirable sets?

I'm no expert but the 1897 set look in very good condition and the other are not too shabby either,all the Victoria maundy coins came out of the same small envelope marked London mint don't know if that's means some were bought direct from them and have not been in many peoples possesion or wether they just ended up in that envelope?
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 Posted 06/08/2012  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darrenj76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
here are the first two pictures of the maundy 1897 set

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Here is the second set of maundy coins from 1899

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Here is the first picture of the silver coins in group c

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Here is the second picture of the silver coins, I had to use the image resizer as it was just over 100kb in size

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