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Fed Expands Operation Twist

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...ear-end.html

So is this printing money or just a card trick to make people feel better?
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 Posted 06/20/2012  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In a word, yes. It is expanding the money supply. More digits.
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 Posted 06/20/2012  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinwatch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's the warm-up act for QE3.
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The DOW didn't seem all that interested in the news. I suppose most analysts saw it coming. Silver actually lost .30, which makes absolutely zero sense to me. Everything about this market is so incredibly counter-intuitive!
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Everything about this market is so incredibly counter-intuitive!


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So this is sort of a card trick rather than more money printing, like OP mentioned. The Fed just buys one type of security and sells another for the same amount. There is no printing of money involved, and that is why silver and gold went down. Here is an article that explains a bit of this:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/econo...y/55711162/1
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Looks like a lot of paper shuffling and a lot of bluster to try and pull the wool over the eyes of people.
A bit like dusting off the cans of beans on the shop shelf and stacking them neatly for sale, Nothing changes they just look better
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I think everything in the financial world right now is nothing but smoke and mirrors. They are doing everything they can to hold things together. Metals are being kept artificially low by naked short sellers on the Comex. This makes the banksters a lot of money without owning real metal. It also makes average Joe six-pack think that buying metals is too risky. They need to keep their money safe "in the system". But how long can this last?
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Smoke and mirrors is right. The whole purpose of Operation Twist is to convert short term treasuries to long term debt. The net effect is similar to QE except the accounting doesn't look quite as horrible. It's an election year gimmick and the timing is no mistake. QE may be delayed until after the election, but it's coming.

How long can it last? Well, politicians on either side of aisle can't seem to see past the next election. The banks don't seem to care; money hasn't been *real* to them in decades and the pixie dust created by the Fed is more to their liking anyway. That leaves just you, me, and every other hard working Joe who calls North America home. Perception and inertia is all that's keeping the game going now.

Needless to say, I'm bullish on PMs.
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Coinwatch, I couldn't agree with you more. Ten years ago you couldn't convince me that the whole financial system could be rigged. Now every where I look see things that just don't seem right. Manipulation of everything. Sure wish more people in this country would wake up an see where we are headed.

Another big hit to metals today. A gift for us PM buyers.
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