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1909-S VDB In A Roll?

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This auction has a "shotgun" roll with a 1909-S showing on one end. Not only does the roll look highly tampered, who in their right mind wouldn't crack open the roll themselves? I had an early bid because I needed a regular 1909-S anyway, but it's starting to go higher than a roll ever should.

BTW, what is so special about a shotgun roll anyway? Couldn't anyone with a friend or relative that works at a bank get them to roll their coins?

Here's the listing:

http://cgi.ebay.com/160827025558
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06/20/2012 1:32 pm
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 Posted 06/20/2012  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree the possible price difference between a non vdb and a vdb are just too much to NOT search the roll. Especially when you get the thought that if there is one.....

As for the shotgun roll. That particular roll is an old style roll. Meaning it was PROBABLY originally rolled 40 plus years ago. Most rolls you see have been rolled within the last few years. Increasing their chances of being searched.

A few years back I was on the "unsearched" roll buying kick on ebay. MOST rolls were duds and/or had obviously been searched. I did find one seller, who no longer sells on ebay, who did have some nice unsearched rolls. Though I never found an 1909s vdb in any of his rolls, I did find many 20 and 30s BU cents. More than a few of them Red.
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 Posted 06/20/2012  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imohtep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The end with the 09 S was obviously pushed together to allow enough room to put a nicely worn down LWC in it. The seller is just trying to spark that curiosity in the average dummy.

-note- My 6 year old nephew saw the picture and said "you wouldn't fool me with that garbage"..he's learned quite well from his uncle it seems!
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 Posted 06/20/2012  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rachums107 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah just a scam.
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Classic seeded roll scam.....NEVER bid on these! There are no unsearched rolls on ebay!
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funny how these guys never get the unsearched rolls of double eagles at these awesome estate sales.
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Who in their right mind would sell a roll of "unsearched" Lincolns on ebay with a 1909-S showing? This roll is not machined wrapped, it is a re-roll done by hand in a used machine roll.

Sucker alert!
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These scams occur all of the time on ebay.
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Ughhh, that is why I never bought any "unsearched" rolls off of ebay... just a bunch of crap it seems.
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Make sure you check the comments after this auction is over to see if it is a 1909S VDB LOL
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I just found a worse seller doing the same thing. On this auction, the 1909-S was also face up and guess what? The buyer found an AU 1909-S VDB for just $350! What do you know! I'm no expert, but that mint mark and LIBERTY just don't look right.

[eBayItem]320922281926[/eBayItem]

Also looked at his closed auctions. All rolls from the fed bank in Denver. Many with 1916 mercs on the end. Now I'd think that there would have been enough control at the federal reserve bank back then to keep them from accidentally rolling dimes into penny rolls. Odd that it's always a 1916 and always on the end and always face up! Must be a magnetic repulsion from the 09 VDB that always seems to be on the other end.

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06/20/2012 8:10 pm
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The basic scam has been around forever--aka "pig in a poke"
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yep these are such a joke gives me a laugh everytime I see a picture haha
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Yes, but this second seller is a real crook. He takes plain kraft paper tubes and rubber stamps them with the name of a legitimate bank. Then he puts in 48 junk cents and something to attract attention on the ends and is averaging over $100 a roll. Yet he has 100% positive feedback.
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"I start the bid low, so your in complete control! "

I hate to be a grammar nazi but stupid things like not knowing the difference between your and you're really irks me.

If you're going to pretend to be a professional at least learn the basics :(
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