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Not Identical Twins, But Close

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Was looking through some serial numbers today and noticed one ending in 3000. As I continued on I saw another ending in 3000 so I went back through to find the first, just to see how close they were and this was my answer. Only one number different! Even though they are not keepers it is an odd and noteworthy find nonetheless I think.


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 Posted 06/26/2012  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kenscott to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One number and one letter are different but it is kind of interesting that you found these as you did.
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 Posted 06/27/2012  08:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great eyes for finding them. Keep looking and you will eventually find something worth keeping.
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 Posted 07/19/2012  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmm found two more that are nearly identical. These are sure good liars poker notes eh?


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 Posted 07/20/2012  12:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EnigmaticMindx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would totally keep the last two! If you don't wanna keep um I will pay for the shipping :)
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Different series as well...both sets.
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Different series as well...both sets.


Yes, but it's the serial numbers I am referring to. If a series goes full swing there are 100 million notes printed, times 24 blocks, times 12 districts. That's 28.8 billion notes (not including stars, and yes I am aware that not all numbers are circulated). So there would be 288 identical serial numbers printed per series, but if 1 of the 8 digits is different then multiple that by 8 and then by 10 for all the digits. So there are 23040 notes per series with one digit difference. 28.8 billion divided by 23040 is 1 in 1.25 million odds of finding these number combinations.
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Those are pretty amazing to find that close.

I've seen some for sale with matching serial #s and they are asking hundreds of dollars for the pair. Way too much on what I would pay for them.
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OK Nick...have a go at these ones...crunch ...the....numbers so to say with multi denomination and same denomination matches OR is this a different game?...IF so pardon me...Thanks

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PS...What about those error cousins? may be the fruits can be let loose again......
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Cross series or cross denomination won't change the odds as long as the whole block is printed. Short of that there may not even be a match since that number may be outside the range. So assuming that the entire block is printed an exact match for one block will be the same odds as a match for multiple blocks printed and the same for cross series and cross denomination. Because as you increase the notes you increase the number of matches, but you also increase the overall number of notes so the ratio stays the same.

So an exact match would be 1 in 100 million. And as I said earlier just because they only circulate 96 million sort of changes things then the odds for finding circulated numbers would be 1 in 96 million, but they do print those other serials they just don't get circulated so in reality it's still 1 in 100 million.
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I think the 19991911 notes are very cool. When I look at those numbers
I see year 1999 day 19 month Nov. (11)

If someone had a event on that date like birth of aniversary .. I would think they
would pay something for them.
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Nov 19th b'day notes would be 11 19 1999....

The 19 binary would have more value to binary collectors working on sets than as b'day notes....

Tombstone Notes (proper) 1911 1999....even they are a hit or miss...been there done that so to say.
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