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Pillar of the Community
Bulgaria
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Edited by t0rress
06/27/2012 03:05 am
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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t0rress:
Very easy to dismiss these as excellent genuine coins.
What are your reasons for thinking that they are fake?
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Pillar of the Community
 Bulgaria
843 Posts |
i dont know but something dosent look good,i dont know...
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Pillar of the Community
Bulgaria
843 Posts |
You think that they are genuine?So I could buy them
Edited by t0rress
06/27/2012 09:24 am
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Moderator
 United States
23731 Posts |
They look fine to me also.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4981 Posts |
don't know if real or not, they are cool. but is that soldier on the last coin reverse wearing stilettos?  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Last one looks like a soldier wearing stilts... Used for battle in Britian...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Any one by itself I could accept as poorly struck but the group togheter all show the same odd look and striking issues with lettering looking just plain odd. While I would be fooled by one, the group stikes me as most likely modern copies made with copy dies. I would not buy them.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The very fine details that show on the high points/places
would most likely be removed in about a day of being in a pocket or bag. To me they look very newly cast. they have the forms of flow lines but not the small details! Shown very well in the excellent pictures. IMHO
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Pillar of the Community
Bulgaria
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if I give 100 dollars they are mine so I would buy 3 or 4
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Once again I find myself agreeing with Doug. I looked at these earlier but did not have time to comment. Now that I have returned home, I wanted to say pretty much the same as Doug. One by itself would have probably fooled me, but as a whole group, many with the same legend problems, I would stay away from them. Victory does not look right, Mars' shield seems wrong along with the shoes, the Trajan reverse looks odd. My point is the same as Doug's. Too many things seem wrong. I would stay away.
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Pillar of the Community
Bulgaria
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i didnt saw doug's comment so I am right that something its wrong with them?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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i didnt saw doug's comment so I am right that something its wrong with them? Doug's comments: Quote:
Any one by itself I could accept as poorly struck but the group togheter all show the same odd look and striking issues with lettering looking just plain odd. While I would be fooled by one, the group stikes me as most likely modern copies made with copy dies. I would not buy them. If I saw any one of these coins by itself, I would be tempted if the price was right. But as a group, I would stay away. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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These are coins that may be good but there are oddities in the high points of some legends and raised dots in the reverse field of Domitian that I just don't like. The fact that several coins have the same overall look but should come from a range of time periods makes me wonder if they were produced together rather than just found together. I can not convince myself that the coins are good so I would simply spend my money elsewhere. I am not in the business of selling expert advice so I am not required to produce a definite opinion. The coins are not obviously enough genuine that I would buy them. In the first post was the statement: "Seems to me that the all coins are fake but...i am 99% sure so what you think?" I am not as much as 99% sure that they are fake but neither am I even 50% sure they are real. If the coins were something special that I might feel like taking a risk on, I would want to be more than a 50% feeling. These are rather ordinary coins of types that can be found elsewhere so my action would be to use my money elsewhere. I would not accuse the seller of selling fakes; I just would not buy them. I do admit I would like to know what a better 'expert' than I am would have to say about the coins. Perhaps it would be more obvious one way or the other if I saw the coins in person but the proper course would be to show them to someone who is more aware of the current stat of affairs in fake manufacture. I know nothing about the political and legal status of coin ownership in Bulgaria. Is it possible to show such coins to museum experts or would that open the coins to being confiscated? The authors of a book on "Cast Forgeries of Classical Coins from Bulgaria" by Ilya Prokopov and Eugeni Paunov might seem a place to ask but I do not know their policies on such inquiries. http://sp-p.net/authors.htm |
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United States
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My first impression of these coins where that they were copies, especially the Gordian III and the Greek coin. But the more I looked at them my opinion changed. I'm still on the edge with the GIII and the Greek, but the others look legit to me.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I am no expert but I do know that I would not buy this lot. The Gordian III is the one that concerns me most.
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Posted 06/27/2012 09:22 am
