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Edward VIII 5 Pound Coin

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Were any Edward VIII 5 pound coins ever made? I've seem a couple of pictures of an Edward VIII proof coronation set and it doesn't look like it, but I've seen mention of them so I'm not sure.
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Not only was the 1937 Five pounds of Edward V111 produced, but if fact ALL of the other denominations, all bearing his effigy, were produced as well. The The Maundy coins, and the English Shilling were not struck.

The obverse designs were done by Thomas Hugh Paget, and are similar to the style of the effigy of George V1. The reverse designs were done by George Kruger Gray.

You won't find any of them, however.

They are all pattern coins, and were never officially released into circulation. Some brass threepence patterns of Edward V111 were accidentally released into circulation, most were recovered.

All of the reverses were similar or the same as for the issue of George V1, which followed, except for the Half Crown, which had a Royal Standard, the Sixpence, which had six interlocked rings of St. Edmund, and the silver Threepence, which had three interlocked rings of St. Edmund.

The brass threepence had a thrift plant of slightly different design.

I have a complete set of uncirculated British Commonwealth coins of Edward V111(seven types in all). These coins do not bear his effigy and all have a central hole. All have the name of Edward V111 in the legend. British stamps bearing his effigy were issued, but are not rare.

I also have most of the 1937 George V1 proof set. It includes the Five Pounds, the Two Pounds, the Half Crown, and the Florin. To make up the rest of this set, I have included uncirculated examples.

I understand that a watermark of Edward V111 was used in Australian issued for circulation banknotes.
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I understand that a watermark of Edward V111 was used in Australian issued for circulation banknotes.

Yes, they were used on the later series of banknotes of George V, back when Edward VIII was the Prince of Wales and heir to the throne.
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Not only was the 1937 Five pounds of Edward V111 produced, but if fact ALL of the other denominations, all bearing his effigy, were produced as well.


Do you know what circumstances the five pounds were produced in? If they weren't in the coronation proof set, why were patterns made? Were gold coins still circulating in England at the time?
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I suspect that the designs WERE prepared for the Coronation proof set, and were expressed as the pattern coins. Being unissued patterns, they have no legal tender status. That makes them extremely rare. Other than a few accidentally issued brass threepences, I do not think that there are any other official pattern coins, of Edward V111 in private hands.

The Coronation of Edward V111, as we all know, never happened.

There have been several UNofficial and PRIVATELY issued series of Edward V111 pattern coins produced. They are still currently being produced, and sold on a commercial basis. They are not rare, most coin dealers can locate an example within a short time, if a client wishes to buy one of these unofficial patterns. They are available in a variety of metals, and they represent Commonwealth countries on the reverse.

Private 9ct. gold pattern sovereigns have also been produced and sold.

The private patterns share no reverse design similarities with the official patterns.

The circulation of gold coins in both the UK and Australia ceased during World War 1, in about 1915. There were gold coins produced for bullion purposes after that time, but that stopped in 1931, when most countries around the World came off the Gold Standard.

Some Sovereigns were produced by Great Britain in the late 1950's and early '60's for bullion purposes for circulation in the Middle East. They bore the frozen date of 1925, and later on Elizabeth 11 issues bearing the then current date.
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I suspect that the designs WERE prepared for the Coronation proof set, and were expressed as the pattern coins. Being unissued patterns, they have no legal tender status. That makes them extremely rare. Other than a few accidentally issued brass threepences, I do not think that there are any other official pattern coins, of Edward V111 in private hands.


Yes, you're probably right, but it's strange that the proof set didn't have a 5 pound coin:
Edward-VIII-5-Pound-Coin

And to confuse matters more, my recently arrived Rotograhpic says no Edward VIII 2 pound or 5 pound coins were produced, but that patterns/examples or every other denomination appear to exist.

edit: Okay, it looks like at least one exists anyway: http://www.pcgs.com/pop/detail.aspx?c=4032&t=1
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The Coincraft catalogue of 1998 illustrates 1937 Edward V111 FIVE pound coin.
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I do not think that there are any other official pattern coins, of Edward V111 in private hands.

Incorrect. Richard Lobel, a UK collector and dealer, owns a complete pattern proof set.
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Sel, while I dont wish to anger your high post count, a little part of me died every time you put Edward V111.

Correct syntax is Roman Numerals which is VIII (V, upper case Is).

But anyway, I had no idea £5 coins were produced back then!
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