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I would say copy
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added photo of the same coin
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No expert on these, but from what appear to be rough surfaces on the fields I'm thinking it's a copy.
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Another vote for a copy here. Forgot to say to CCF.
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thanks for the help

and this? copy?

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What holder is that in?
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Look at the flashing around the edges of the opening of the slab. Doesn't look real.
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second coin is in holder
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I have read that almost ALL dates of the double eagle have been copied.
That being said, I have not seen one, perhaps until now.

ms-1: from the pictures of the first coin you have posted I understand your implication for concern. The fields of this coin are a little rough. Compare that with the detail in the fields with the pictures of the second coin you have posted.

Quite often with genuine coins of this type, minor signs of metal flow can be seen on the outside edges of the legends. Although not a reliable indication of a fake, I can see no evidence of metal flow.
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sel_69l, thanks a lot :)
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Do they weigh and measure correct?
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for first coin - unknown, dimensions for the second are correct
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What holder is that in?


Don't know about the coins, but the second one is in a holder and has been cropped by hand giving the coin edge/rim the uneven, rough appearance that it has.

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For me it would be difficult to know for sure if fake or real from those photos. Measuring usually is not a valid method either since any decent counterfeiter would at least make ta fake the same size. Of course weight is probabaly one of the best methods to determine if real or not since not many counterfeiters would use all real materials.
I would suggest prior to purchasing anything expensive, having them authenticated by having the owner send to a TPGS such as NGC or PCGS.
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Dear friends, thank you for your warm welcome and your comments. You helped me a lot!
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