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In looking at the State Quarters proofs, they all have a nice shiny, almost chrome look to the details with a mirror-like background whereas the ATB Quarters seem to have a frosty look to the details and a mirrorlike background. Whhat is the difference in process that leads to the frosty versus shiny look and why did they change it? Just curious, thanks for the info...
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I know they have changed some things up in the last few years. I think they laser etch some coins now to create the frosted finish. I don't know much else though.
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I had thought it was because they polished the dies differently but take my theory with a grain of salt
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I had thought it was because they polished the dies differently but take my theory with a grain of salt




That would make sense. Either that or something about how they treated the plancets before hand probably
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The frosted areas on modern proofs is courtesy of vapor blasting the relief areas before striking. On the older proofs, most of the design elements have a mirror effect. Only the earliest strikes from a new die or repolished die would have frosty design elements, as more coins were struck this feature would wear away on the die. Consequently, proofs with cameos are relatively rare to scarce from 1950 to about the mid-1990's on some denominations. Today almost all proofs issued by the US Mint are CAM or DCAM.
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I'm disappointed with the new finish in the last few years. The Washington obverse looks washed-out on the ATB Quarters compared to the State Quarters. The Star Spangled $1 silver proof would have looked so much nicer with the former finish. So much so that this will be part of my buying decision when I consider future silver commems and proof sets. JMHO.
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Cameo and ultra cameo proofs on coins prior to 1965 were artifacts, not the intended look of the coins. They were intended to be fully brilliant coins but they did not have a good way to polish the devices other than to let the first few strikes do the job. The look became popular among collectors (the same look had appeared on small run proofs of the late 1800s for the same reason) so the mint spent the effort to find a way to produce cameo coins in large runs. In 2003 they experimented with a laser instead of sandblasting the die before hardening and the look achieved was very good (2004 National Wildlife Refuges Medals). Unfortunately, it was expensive, and to reduce costs the mint lowered the resolution of the laser "etch" which has resulted in significant loss of detail in the devices. It does however cause very high contrast between fields and devices. The traditional and now the vapor sandblasting is still in use on uncirculated coins, where contrast is not a factor but detail is. I wish the mint would choose detail over contrast for the proofs as well but they don't seem interested in doing do.
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Are you sure you aren't comparing silver state proofs to clad ATB proofs?
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Are you sure you aren't comparing silver state proofs to clad ATB proofs?

OR the Mint hired a Chrome Plating service for autos to redo their Proofs.
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