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Valued Member
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Just found a number of these NGC graded soft paks on ebay. When did this soft pak start. Have never seen one before but there are quite a few on ebay now especially in the Morgans. edgman 
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I have a Peace dollar in soft pack, my understanding is they were done the same time at the mint as the gsa holders, very frustrating in that I think they should carry a premium but they don't appear to.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Ive seen similar things like that I think from both NGC and PCGS. They have another one where it looked like they just put a label on the CC dollar mint packaging.
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Pillar of the Community
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I could be wrong, but I've only seen the "Soft Pack" used by NGC. The PCGS website still says that the coins must be shipped in the GSA holder for grading. When PCGS receives the coins, PCGS will remove them from the acrylic GSA pack and placed in a PCGS holder with a GSA annotation.
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The Soft Pack was a legitimate GSA issue, for the lesser coins they sold. GSA deemed them to be circulated, although many weren't. NGC grades both soft and hard packs in their original containers. They also grade the collector-only 40% Ike in a similar softpack.
It's believed that less than 100,000 Morgan Soft Packs were sold. Could be a growth opportunity.
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Thanks guys
Seems to me to look like a cheap package. Wouldn't want to store my coins in that cellophane. Drop something on it and the coin could get damaged, etc. I take it they don't use that packaging anymore or could you send them a GSA coin and have them put it in this holder now?
Again, something new learned here.
edgman
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Quote: Seems to me to look like a cheap package. Wouldn't want to store my coins in that cellophane. Drop something on it and the coin could get damaged, etc. I agree Id much rather have a slab or the ogp then have it in that baggy. Seems like it would be easy to rip as well. I'm not sure if NGC still does that or not, I think PCGS only does slabs now if you want it graded and stopped putting their labels on boxes
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Pillar of the Community
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OK, NGC puts the soft Pack around the hard GSA Slab. I have never seen PCGS do the same thing. IMHO you should leave the GSA slabbed coins in the GSA Slabs. They bring a higher priemium in the GSA slabs than in the PCGA slabs with the "GSA" annotation and don't cost you anything.
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Pillar of the Community
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OH, yes I agree with Ssuper Dave on the GSA soft pack issue. Be carefull if someone says its a PCGS Soft Pack grading.
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NO NO NO NO
GSA issued the Soft Pack. NGC just grades them and surrounds them with a less-flexible plastic holder.
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Bedrock of the Community
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The GSA sold the coins in two different packages- the higher quality coins(mostly CC dollars) were sold in the hard black plastic slab while the lesser quality coins were sold in the soft packs with the plastic token. NGC is the only grading company that preserves the original GSA packaging, the hard slabs get an adhesive grading band and the soft packs get a flexible plastic holder that is similar to the holder used for currency.
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Bedrock of the Community
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When the GSA sold the CC and other dollars left in the Treasury vaults from 1964 they used four different types of holder. Three of them were large hard plastic holders and one was the the "cellophane" soft package. In the roughly 2.9 million coins about 100K were obviously worn mixed date and mint coins, about 500K were uncirculated non-CC mint dollars and the balance were CC mint coins. The CC coins were divided into two groups, the "uncirculated" coins which were white and untarnished, and the "not uncirculated" coins which actually were Unc but had excessive marks or nore often tarnish or toning. The Uncirculated CC dollars were put into hard plastic holders labels Carson City Uncirculated Silver Dollar. These were sold for varying prices depending on the date. The other CC dollars were put in hard plastic holders labeled Carson City Silver Dollar. (Note the word Uncirculated is missing) These were sold in the Mixed date CC dollars catagory for $15 each. This is the catagory the 1889, 91, and 93 CC dollars were sold in. (They only had one of each.) The Non-CC unc dollars went into a hard plastic holder labeled United States Uncirculated Silver Dollar. I do not remember what these sold for. The obviously circulated coins were put in the soft "cellophane" packages and put into a blue envelope. (see picture) For some reason a lot of the Unc 1878-CC dollars were also distributed in this holder. The single Seated dollar in the sale, an 1864, was also sold in this holder. These coins were sold for $3 each.  Around 2000 or 2001 NGC began slabbing the GSA hard plastic holders in the holder. before that time they were always cracked out and placed in regular NGC slabs. Around 2004 or 2005 it was decided to "slab" the GSA soft packs in the original government holder as well, but the soft flexible "cellophane" would not take to banding like the hard packs did. So to solver the problem NGC borrowed currency holders from their sister company PMG and encapsulated the entire softpack inside the currency holder. That is what you see in the OP. NGC also used these same holders for the State Quarter, President dollar first day covers, and 40% silver blue Ikes.
Edited by Conder101 07/17/2012 4:18 pm
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