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1903-S Morgan Dollar

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 Posted 07/15/2012  06:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dav40828 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Lets see your grading skills on this one. I'm thinking could be MS

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 Posted 07/15/2012  07:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paleoguy45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice Morgan! I'd have to go with an XF-45 due to the wear on the eagle's breast.
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Wow, this is a tough one! While I really haven't been grading or even looking at coins for a while, the wear on the coin is unusual. The obverse shows the wear on the tip of the cap, but the reverse shows wear on the eagle's breast. Her small curl of hair in front of the ear is good and the normal wear patterns on the motto "LIBERTY" and adjacent hair and ear is not visible. Good but, for me confusing, photos; are they of the same coin?

Anyway, I'll have to say AU53 to AU55 and thanks for the exercise. The obverse is definitely better than the reverse.
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 Posted 07/15/2012  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic Florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think it is MS either. AU 53-55
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The coin does look like it may grade around mid to high AU. It may be the pictures but the coin does not appear to have a significant amount of mint luster which would be something I would expect from a morgan in this grade.
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First off, nice coin! IF this coin had full mint bloom I would be tempted to go MS on it. I don't like the color, it looks like it was once cleaned and retoned. The eagles feathers could be just from a weaker strike as the earlier S Mint coins were struck far better than the later years. The hair detail is almost all there and that also varies on the strike of the coins. I'm seeing some scratches but I think those might be on the slab it is in. Bottom line, I'd go AU-55 details.
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Is this a scan? If so it doesn't show the mint lustre very well. A good pic from even a cell phone camera might give it a little more color.Love Morgans.
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Sure would like to hear a response from Dav on this one.
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Well, let's think about this for a moment.

First, one expects decent strikes from San Francisco Morgans. With that said, 1903 is long into the production life of the master dies, even having been refreshed over the years, and we won't necessarily expect 1881-S quality out of a 1903.

The appearance of the eagle's breast could be consistent with wear, or it could be due to a weak strike. Likewise for the hair above the ear. Both are the very first places wear appear on a Morgan. So how do you know the difference?

For me, that marker is the bottom leaves on the wreath - the two largest which point directly to the sides of the coin - and the eagle's talons. Both will begin to show the problems of a weak strike almost as soon as the breast feathers will, while not showing wear nearly as quickly. The talons are tough to evaluate in such small images, although they do appear to be nicely rounded. The two leaves tell the story, though. They are well-struck, showing all interior detail.

If the leaves are that well-struck, so then should be the breast. It isn't. This coin has seen circulation, and I'll call it AU-55.
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I must see a lot more wear on this coin than the rest of you, I rate it solid EF40 maybe EF45 but no more,
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