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 Posted 07/15/2012  4:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Tjmcman to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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What is meant when a coin is 'whizzed'?
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 Posted 07/15/2012  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It was a form of processing by using a high speed wire brush. They would take an EF or AU coin and brush it to look like full mint cartwheel luster.
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 Posted 07/15/2012  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atlashealth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
leaves tell tale hairlines and significantly devalues the coin

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It is a harsh form of cleaning. As explained by Indiangoldeagle and atlashealth, the process creates hairlines in order to simulate mint luster thus making it appear in a higher grade than it really is. The luster it creates is very unnatural looking especially when you compare it to natural mint luster.
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 Posted 07/16/2012  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most whizzing is pretty obvious. However on the opposite side of this, when I first got into buying Morgans big time in 08, I had a very very nice 1883P that I was told had been whizzed.....long after I bought it. I had posted it on an online forum and asked opinions on grade and received a long litany of "whizzed" because of some parallel lines that were visible in the field in front of Anna's face.

Two years later I was set up at a local show and was asked why I wasn't selling the 83P. When I told him it was whizzed he got his loupe out and asked me "you mean you can't tell planchent striations from whiz marks? Three other dealers all said the same thing and while I ended up being embarrassed I also learned a valuable lesson.

If you think it is whizzed look at the marks. Do they run right up to and abut the lettering, bust, or other feature? If they do then they are probably planchent striations. Or Die scratches from the repair of a clashed die. I have some absolutely "scratched up" Lincoln cents that die scratches.

Also Whizzed marks are dug mostly in the coin. Though they can displace metal and so you will have some raised areas. However; the "valleys" are going to be on the same level as the field.
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thanks for making the distinction JM
will check with a loupe from now on!
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 Posted 07/17/2012  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tjmcman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
JM,
I posted some images under a thread titled: 'Is this an example of a whizzed coin?'

I would attach them here if possible, but can't figure it out. Could you take a look at this coing and see if it is an example of planchent striations?

Thanks,
Terry McManus
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I'm going to have a shot at answering this, Terry, but I'll put it into the other thread.
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 Posted 07/18/2012  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tjmcman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I appreciate everyone's feedback on this.... Thanks!
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