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 Posted 07/23/2012  07:23 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I made an offer on this coin and the dealer responded with a counteroffer. I think the counteroffer is too high, but would like the opinions of others. Without me disclosing the price, give me what you think this coin may be worth: I think it is Constantius II Aquileia RIC VIII 217var:

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 Posted 07/23/2012  07:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
$30-50. Aquilea is not the easiest to find. It has several faults and is not the largest size but has some interesting style and details that make it better than some mid size FH coins.
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 Posted 07/23/2012  08:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin has some nice detail with the exception of what appears to be damage to the top of the head. I would be willing to pay between $25-$30 for it.









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 Posted 07/23/2012  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen this listing an think his price is reasonable.
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Nice detailing on the reverse... not the best however.
The "desert patina" hides abrasions, especially on the obverse side.
If I was to make an offer, it would be less than half the asking price.
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I'd pay around $25 for it.
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 Posted 07/23/2012  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Because I have found it hard to find this type in very fine condition I think that I would pay up to $25.00.
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I guess I procrastinated too long. The seller sold to someone else who was willing to make up his/her mind. The seller originally wanted $30 plus shipping of $6.50. I offered $20 plus shipping and he countered with $25 plus shipping. In the end, it cost me nothing and I have no coin.
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The Fallen horseman type is the most common Roman coin. Most importantly you still have your money. There will be other occasions to buy.
The standard shipping price seems high, $6.50 is trackable?
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 Posted 08/13/2012  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
The Fallen horseman type is the most common Roman coin. Most importantly you still have your money. There will be other occasions to buy.


I'm resurrecting this old post to demonstrate that Masis was right when he advised that there would come other opportunities to buy a similar coin. Below is not exactly the same being AQS rather than AQP. Both coins are weak to the right of the mintmark so it is hard to say if the branch or dot is there. The OP coin is a bit more 'strange' style in the faces on the reverse but the new one is not flat from being so spread out (actually it is on a small flan with zero dotted border showing). Opinions may vary on which coin is better but the point here is that a substantially similar coin turned up in less than a month. This new one was listed privately and advertised on Ancient Coin Marketplace:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ACM-L/
so no one had to pay ebay allowing the coin to be cheaper (postpaid) than the OP. I bought this one and really like the surfaces so I might have paid more (enough to cover ebay I suspect) but there is an advantage to buying from each other rather than from professional dealers trying to send their kids to college on the profits.

How long will it be until someone can find another? A month again? Is it important that it be Aquilea with the II in the field or is the Falling Horseman all that is needed? That question will mean a lot in the question of how often we will see the 'same' coin. It looks like I gave too high a price estimate for the OP coin but I only have a couple AQ FH coins and really thought the coin was more scarce than it now seems to be. Listen to Masis; he was right.

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 Posted 08/13/2012  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good advice.
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 Posted 08/14/2012  01:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MartiVltori to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep a common (but desirable) type. Better to hold of for a better quality example. I do love these types.

Mine is not Aquileia but a decent looking coin.
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 Posted 08/14/2012  06:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MartiVltori's coin brings up the question that separates so many of us in our collecting pursuits. Is his coin 'the same' as mine; is mine the 'same' as the OP coin. The answer will differ according to whether you have one falling horseman or a hundred. 'Helvetica' who runs Wildwinds specializes in the FH series and is making an honest effort to get a specimen of all of the 2000+ variations possible. To her, a dot or minor symbol means a lot and condition is not important as long as the coin is different.
http://www.catbikes.ch/helvetica/feltemps.htm
Most reading this probably did not notice (or care) that there was a star in the field of the OP coin crowded between the hand of the horseman and the belly of the soldier. That star changes the RIC number and page on which the coin will be found. For most of us after a few years there will come a specialty interest in something - there are thousands of choices. If you happen to become a late Roman or even a Falling Horseman specialist, you will have more to talk about with Helvetica while now many of you will consider her, and me, to be more than a little strange. Who else would have a hundred or a thousand of the 'same' coin and still want more?
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 Posted 08/14/2012  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MartiVltori to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I noticed the star and of course they are not the same "RIC Type" they are the same issue/reverse type in a broad sense. There are many minute details including field characteristics such as the star or different mints, and many other specifics which differentiate them into a myriad of specific types. That's something that makes them so interesting; especially prevalent in some of the LRB's with so many different mints and varieties.

I don't think either of you are strange at all! :)
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