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 Posted 03/03/2007  5:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add pennybright to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is a coin depicted on the back of a LeJour Incabloc pocket watch from my late father. I have been trying for 7 years to identify this with no luck. Any knowledge out there of what this crest is from?

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 Posted 03/03/2007  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RenaL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It says "god with us" if my French is correct. That makes it a French coin/medal.

Maybe someone could recognise the coat of arms. And it could be of great help if you have the other side's image.
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 Posted 03/03/2007  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pennybright to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you. The "God go with us" I decyphered, it's the crest I cannot find. Here is a picture of the front.
For sale once I know what it is...

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 Posted 03/04/2007  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's definitely a curious piece, but I don't think it's a coin. The coat of Arms is Swedish, but the language sure looks French to me - and the language on Swedish coins was always either Latin or Swedish. Swedish for "God" is "Gud", not "Dieu". There were some very similar looking silver coins from Sweden, but the motto was in Swedish.

It's not a Swedish provincial/colonial as far as I can tell; all the Swedish gold coins from this time period pictured in Krause are like this one with the simpler, three-crowns-only coat of arms. It does have a date, "1756". The only thing I can think of to link France, Sweden and the date 1756 was that France and Sweden were allies in the Seven Years War (1756-1763).

A pity the back of the coin/medal is missing - that'd probably tell you the rest of the story.
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 Posted 03/04/2007  01:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pennybright to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much. That is more info than I have learned so far. I really appreciate your time on this.
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 Posted 03/04/2007  05:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add josie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for another info sap.
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 Posted 03/04/2007  06:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pennybright to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excuse me Josie? I don't understand your reply.
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 Posted 03/04/2007  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add josie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coins are use for propaganda in the past,since the year that sap have mentioned and the past events in those time and place and the inscription on the coin,their is room for studies that this coin is use for the alliance on both countries or other things since you are researching for it for 7 years hope other readers and expert can browse it or know their is a piece and its been posted here in this forum for futher research or studies.

Thats what I meant thank you for the info.

For I'm thinking that coins and other currencies or notes are used in war or propaganda if it is authenticated it is one of those coin and I can use the answer in other forum and site or other that may arise in the future.

Good coin its gold not a usual coin to be carried by ordinary man on that time it might belong to high people in the past they use ring to relay message to affirm where the message came from or its authentic they can used that coin in the past.

Hope expert reply or historian like other expert in this forum.
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 Posted 03/04/2007  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pennybright to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually it is not a gold coin. Maybe gold plated. It is the replica of a coin or token, but I do not think it is the actual coin or token. I honestly do not know. I have no idea where my late father got it, or why. I have found out that Incabloc is a shock absorber in only used in high end watches (I actually called the LeJour company). So far, that's about it other than what the person above said. Seems to have stumped many people as to what type of token it was.
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Sap is the poster you just got done thanking above.
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