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Smackdown VII - Constantine I

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Coins of Constantine I

1) Only one (1) coin per Member.
2) Can be a living or posthumous issue from any mint.
3) Barbarous coins are allowed and welcomed.
4) Voting: vote for 3 coins in order of preference, Gold (4pts), Silver (2pts), Bronze (1pt).
5) Host announces the winner. Winner chooses next Smackdown Subject and is host.
6) You do not have to enter a coin to vote but please do try to enter something.
7) Base your votes on an criteria you like, eye appeal, life-like busts, rarity, quality, anything you like.
8) Final decision if two coins have the same score and the same number of golds will be the hosts choice.
9) Enjoy.

Entries Begin Immediatley and Submission Ends @ 20:00hrs EST USA, WEDNESDAY 8th AUGUST
Voting will last 1 day. Ending at 20:00hrs THURSDAY 9th AUGUST.


Flavius Valerius Aurelius Constantinus Augustus or Constantine the Great, was he a tyrant or a caring Emperor? A populariser of Christianity or a user of religion to conquer hearts and minds? A vengeful Machiavellian or a caring father and husband? Did he restore the Empire or was he responsible for speeding its ultimate break-up?

Whatever you think of him he was born in 272, elevated in York in 306 and had a war filled 30 year reign. Its estimated he had around 300,000,000 coins minted during this time so we should have plenty to choose from, lets see yours.

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Lets see if we can hit 30 entrants
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Only one coin per member? Wow, I have a ton of Constantine I coins. This will be very difficult to pick out just one to enter. Hmmmmm, let me see
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Okay, I have very little choice here, but this is one of my favourite coins anyway (and my only constantine I...):
This doesn't depict constantine, but its one of his coins. If it doesn't count, then so be it.

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Constantine the Great, Ciy commemorative of Rome.

Legend: VRBS ROMA. Depicts roma on obverse, and Romulus and Remus on the reverse.

despite its bad condition, I love it because of how clear romulus and remus and lupa are.
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Good idea for a category! Here's my entry

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Constantine AE3. Trier RIC VII 538. Struck 330-335 AD. CONSTANTI-NVS MAX AVG, laureate, draped & cuirassed bust right / GLOR-IA EXERC-ITVS, two soldiers holding spears & shields with two standards between them, standards with thin pointed banners, TR dot P in ex.
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Here is my entry. I had a hard time choosing which one. I really think you should consider allowing two coins for this emperor.

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Divus Constantine AE4. 337-340 AD. DV CONSTANTINVS PT AVGG, veiled head right / Constantine in quadriga right, the hand of God, upper center, grasping the chariot, CONS in ex. RIC VIII Constantinopolis 37
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Constantine the Great AE Follis

Obv:-- IMP C CONSTANTINVS P F AVG, Laureate, draped bust right (seen from the rear)
Rev:-- GENIO POP ROM, Genius standing left, wearing modius and chlamys, sacrificing from patera on flaming altar and holding cornucopiae
Minted in Lugdunum (CI | H/S / PLC) A.D. Autumn A.D. 308 to start A.D. 309 (Bastien)
Reference:-- Bastien 509 (75 examples cited). RIC VI 287 (though Bastien groups both Modius and Towered versions into one group)
6.35 gms. 25.67 mm

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I have a lot so it may take a little time to choose the right one.
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I have a limited budget and I haven't been really searching for a Constantine I upgrade, so this is the best I have. Still pretty nice-looking though IMO.

Obv: CONSTANTINVS MAX AVG
Rev: GLORIA EXERCITVS, two soldiers with two standards, TR dot S in ex, Trier mint

RIC 537

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Bobbyhelmet: I want to throw my vote in for two coins per contestant. My reasoning is that there are so many great coins of Constantine I, by your count 300,000,000 struck. It seems a shame that we limit what can be shown. One of the purposes of this competition is to show off the great coins we all have in our collections. It's awful hard to ween it down to just one coin. I'm awaiting your decision.
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I also like the idea of two coins especially with Constantine so many to choose from.
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I'd prefer that I could remember which of my coins I have shown before so I could pick something someone might like to see when the topic is wide open as Constantine. He has a lot of coins and many of the ones I have are more rare than nice or more nice than rare. Both would be nice for this purpose. This one is RIC common but not one you see every day. It was issued in autumn 307 at Rome under Maxentius honoring the recognition as Constantine as Caesar while mints under control of Constantine elevated him to Augustus. The same type exists for Maxentius and Maximianus (his father) with both being RIC scarce. It was not issued for the Eastern Emperor Galerius who was at that time in open warfare with Maxentius and Maximianus. I suspect the reason for the coins of Constantine being more common is that the M&M team was trying to court his support against Galerius. As it worked out, Galerius was defeated by mutiny among his troops so Constantine's direct support was not needed. I still don't see how there would have been enough Caesar coins issued to rate a common issue. There are also Constantine Augustus coins of this series but they are rated scarce. I'm wondering if this might be a case where the RIC ratings were skewed by a find being split up among the reporting museums rather than evidence that there are a really enough of these to be called common.

Constantine I as Caesar issued under Maxentius at Rome AE1 follis
RIC vol VI, page 376, #196 Roma seated in temple with plain pediment
CONSERVATORES VRB SVAE R*Q (all these are shop 4)

The cutters of this portrait probably had never seen Constantine since he was deployed far from Rome. I always liked the nose.



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Quote:
1) Only one (1) coin per Member.


I'm happy to bend the rules a little if people cant select just one coin. Two is definitely the limit though

Already lots of good coins entered and nice to see a lot of people taking part.

Sorry for the late response to the two coin questions, been watching GB uncharacteristically winning lots of Golds in the Olympics!
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You would think by now that I would have learned how to take desent pictures, but that's not the case. Anyway the coins look much better in hand. Here are my to entries.



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IMP CONSTANTINVS AVG
IOVI CONSERVATORI AVGG
palm in left field
S in right field
SMN (Nicomedia mint)
RIC VII Nicomedia 23

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CONSTANTINVS MAX AVG
GLORIA EXERCITVS
CONSH (Constantinople mint)
RIC VII CONSTANTINOPLE 59
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Thanks bobbyhelmet. Even two will be difficult to choose. The thing about Constantine I is that there are so many wonderful coins out there.

1. My first coin is rated R3 by RIC. An AE3, RIC VII Trier 42, struck at Trier 313-15 AD:

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OBV: CONSTANTINVS P F AVG, laureate and cuirassed bust right
REV: SOL INVICTO COMITI, Sol, radiate, standing left, raising right hand, globe in left, chlamys across shoulder
2.85g, 18mm

2. The second coin is one I posted here just a few weeks ago. This one is special in that I have never seen a Constantine I portrait like this one. Even with the weak strike on the reverse and the wear on the obverse, I find this coin to be intriguing because of the differences from others. This is a Follis, RIC VI 50b, struck at Thessalonica 312-313 AD:

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OBV: CONSTANTINVS P F AVG, laureate head right
REV: IOVI CONSERVATORI, Jupiter standing left, holding globe & sceptre, wreath left, E right, dot SM dot TS dot in ex.
5.5g, 26mm
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Constantine the Great Ae Follis
Obv:-- CONSTANTINVS P F AVG, Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right
Rev:- SOLI INVIC-TO COMITI, Sol standing left holding globe in left hand and raising right
Minted in Lugdunum (F | T / PLC).
Reference:-- RIC VI Lugdunum -. Bastien -.

This is currently the only known example with this particular bust and obverse legend for this type for this issue at Lugdunum and was completely unknown to Bastien and does not appear in any of the Bastien Supplements. It is hoped that it will be included in the next Bastien Supplement.

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Interesting coin Martin. I especially like the way his eyebrow is raised and his facial expression almost as though he is angry.
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