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I have been grading a lot of coins lately and I am concerned that I am not paying enough attention to the rims and edges. When looking for bag marks and dings, how important are the rims in relation to the field and the devices?
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Small marks on the rims aren't of much concern, but a large rim ding will negatively affect the grade of a coin. So much so that it can result in a bodybagging(not slabbing a coin due to damage) of a coin by a grading service
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I've read several different places now that most professional graders look at the edge first.

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I just read a similar article. The ANA guide actually mentions the number of marks allowed in the higher grades. So if 2 or three marks are allowed, that includes marks on the rim.....I guess........
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I'm paying a LOT more attention to the rims and edges now. If you ever try reselling a coin with a noticeable rim hit or edge nick it can knock a lot of dollars off the coins value. I've gotten rid of just about every coin I have that has any noticeable edge problems just because of this.
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From a buyers perspective, serious rim nicks are the one thing that turns me off when buying a coin. I like a solid shape coin.

I'm not sure if graders also consider this but for some coins with rims known to wear quickly (like buffalos) I even consider rim wear during my decision process to buy.
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Great feedback. I'm going to have to go back and re-grade a lot of coins but it's better to do it now rather than when I try to sell or trade them. What a great resource this forum is. There are no coin clubs in my area so this forum was a great find.
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In addition to that, the rim is an excellent place (with reeded coins) to help determine between AU/MS, and if the coin has been dipped.

Planchets vary in thickness; strike pressure comes and goes, but if the collar fits the coin generally gets a full set of reeds. As long as you know what Mint State reeding looks like, you can usually tell if they've begun wearing even a little bit, under magnification. And, chances are a dipping which will leave the surfaces of the coin pristine will not get all the crud out from between the reeds.
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