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I Have Some Chinese Coins I'm Trying To Identify

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So I have some chinese coins, that I'm assuming are fake. I've been going through my coin collections recently and I found these things in it, and I kind of want to know what their deal is. I would google it, but since they're in chinese I can't really do that. Pretty much what I want to know it if they're counterfeits, what kind of coins they are, or are counterfeits of, how to verify either way, what they say on them, where they're from and, of course, if they're worth anything.

1st coin (description because I know the photos suck): front side: english says Sungarei above a dragon, and 1 Teal below that. Other side is a bunch of chinese characters. Edge has various characters, and also english lettering that spells out Da Qing Zao Bi Chang
its a slightly brownish silver and is about 4.5 centimeters in diameter (don't know the weight of any of these)

2nd coin:just characters on both sides, one side with just four, the other with four big ones surrounding four smaller ones. it's silver colored and not quite four centimeters wide. It's also the only one that reacts to a magnet.

3rd coin: one side just has swirly designs, the other is four big characters. It's bronze with a square hole in the middle, and about 4.25 centimeters.
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1st and 2nd coin appear to be counterfeits and the 3rd I'm not sure
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#1 is a replica "Sungarei" pattern tael; genuine ones are extremely scarce; see some discussion about them in this thread.

#3 has the obverse of a "normal" cash coin of the Quian Long emperor, but cash coins don't normally have pictorial elements like the leaves on the reverse of this piece. It's a "coin-like" charm.
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#3 has the obverse of a "normal" cash coin of the Quian Long emperor, but cash coins don't normally have pictorial elements like the leaves on the reverse of this piece. It's a "coin-like" charm.


I think you mean that it is "the obverse of a "normal" cash coin of the Kangxi emperor...".

I cannot see the reverse side clearly enough but the "leaves" are probably meant to be a very stylized dragon and phoenix.

In any case, this charm is not old.

Regarding coin #2, the inscription states that it is a one tael coin made in Tibet during the reign of the Guangxu emperor of the Qing Dynasty.

An example of the coin appeared in this Chinese coin forum. All the replies state that the coin is a fake and that no authentic coins like this were ever minted.

Gary

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