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 Posted 08/24/2012  6:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
A couple thoughts, first.

1) The luster on this coin is complete, original and booming. Easily the most striking I've seen on a Brown Lincoln. The color is pretty accurate, if I do say so myself....or at least it's accurate on my monitor. Which is to say, it's not sure what color it wants to be.

2) This one is the poster child for the harsh effects of well-lit digital photography. Only what looks like the relatively-large marks near the bottom of the reverse are visible to the naked eye (barely), and everything else you'll see is barely visible even under a 7x loupe. As I've learned with Morgans, even a 65 looks pretty ugly under the unflinching vision of an 18MP dSLR sensor with an accurate lens. The angled lighting exaggerates the perceived depth and prominence of every mark.

I'd provide equivalent images from Heritage, except they've only ever offered one in 64BN and no 65's. There are some 65RD's with CAC beans you might want to compare to, though. As I walk this path, I'm becoming more aware by the day of just how difficult high-grade Browns are to find.

This one's staying with me.

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This was acquired from a fairly prominent member here whose name I will not yet mention so it doesn't affect anyone's opinion.
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 Posted 08/24/2012  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ken052376 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Absolutely beautiful coloring imo!
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 Posted 08/24/2012  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add beaglebailey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin. You gotta love those browns, esp. when they have just a little hint of red remaining on them and they still have full luster. In my book they beat full reds hands down.
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 Posted 08/24/2012  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice LWC. This would be my definition of rainbow brown.
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Beautiful Coin.

And as always, great photography.
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 Posted 08/24/2012  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Captain Morgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great picture of a very nice old copper.
I am sure a welcome addition to your collection.
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 Posted 08/25/2012  07:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Telestrat27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tremendous coin. I LOVE the toning/brown color, and it's got beautiful surfaces. Just WOW!
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I'm never surprized with how digital photography fails to capture the TRUE look of a BN or otherwise toned copper coin. The luster is usually lost and every single little flaw is highlighted.....things we typically do not see in hand. I know exactly what you're saying and I'm positive this coin looks 100x better in hand.

MS-65BN all day long IMO!

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On another note....it's good to see you sticking with HQ brown coins for your Lincoln collection! There's FAR too much emphasis on red copper to collectors. While I still do like it, anymore it makes me yawn as the coins are just not that exciting to me. Seeing a nicely toned, RB or brown cent makes me more excited. Plus, with good protection and storage, you'll never have to worry about your coins turning or developing spots.
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I could show the luster better, but only at the cost of detail.

I cannot help but feel like something's "wrong" with a Gem Red coin that's 100 years old. Seems unnatural. In my mind a Brown of the same grade overwhelms a Red. Not to mention, few are doing it this way. More for me.

For the record, this one came from coppercoins.
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I also agree this coin, because of it's superb strike, should be MS65.
The facial features are outstanding as well as the hair, beard and tie.

As far as coin photography is concerned, I thought my new nikon 35 mm digital would do the trick
but every time I take a pic of a "nice coin", I'm thinking "this coin has a lot of flaws"
(or something that surmises that sentiment)
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I could show the luster better, but only at the cost of detail.


Personally, I feel it's a worthwhile trade-off. I really try hard to show the cartwheel lines in my pictures. You can normally pick out the spokes in my pictures and any experienced collector will recognize them.

I still use an old 6MP camera and feel it's "good enough". My entire coin photography setup can be had for around $120. Obviously, I cannot take the super high-res pictures and my color depth is not insane but I feel like I can usually capture the spirit of any coin.
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I cannot help but feel like something's "wrong" with a Gem Red coin that's 100 years old. Seems unnatural. In my mind a Brown of the same grade overwhelms a Red. Not to mention, few are doing it this way. More for me.


I definately hear you there! Storage methods were poor at best 50-100 years ago. Heck, they didn't even have plastic bags! It makes you wonder how we can have so many old, red coins today.

Didn't I sell you a primo brown coin sometime ago? I forget!
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Has anyone carefully dipped a high grade BN and submitted it as an RD? I would be curious how often PCGS / NGC catches it
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Now that is something I wouldn't dream of trying.
Actually I never dipped any coin so I have no experience


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Didn't I sell you a primo brown coin sometime ago? I forget!


You're the one who got me started down this mad road.

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Has anyone carefully dipped a high grade BN and submitted it as an RD? I would be curious how often PCGS / NGC catches it


Dipped copper comes out an extremely strange color, impossible to miss. It's even brighter than you see in these pics:

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