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Basics For Getting Good Pictures

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 Posted 08/27/2012  02:38 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Babar to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all!

I just got a ton of 2x2 flips, but before I started storing all my coins, I thought I'd get photographs of them all. Since I wanted advice on the basic setup and stuff, I headed on here.

I looked around this section, but I wasn't sure what to search for exactly...it would be helpful if the basic stuff was stickied to the top!

Anyhow, my first question is, I have a flatbed scanner, and have been scanning coins at up to 600 dpi (I haven't tried going higher, so I don't know if I can). Is there any significant advantage to photographing my coins with a camera instead of using the scanner?

Some background:
I have a Canon Powershot G12 (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonG12/2) camera, which I'd like to think is pretty good for a non-DSLR. It has all the stuff I'd need (great macro mode, timer, etc). I have a tripod. I have all the usual stuff you'd find around a normal house- sunlight, other lights, lamps, tables, desks, windows, etc.

I also have an ardent desire NOT to have to buy any new stuff. Rigs or lighting or whatever.

So my second question, if I AM going to photograph them with a camera, what should my setup be? How should I lay everything out? Where to place the coin/s, where to place the tripod? What distance between them? What sort of lighting is best? Which direction should it be coming from, etc.

Thanks in advance!
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08/27/2012 02:48 am
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 Posted 08/27/2012  05:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I find it a problem using a scanner.

I find it's very difficult (without doing more than 1 scan to get the image in a proper vertical position.

I see with amazement that lots of dealers manage to get a good image of both sides and many do this even for coins priced at 50 pence. Is there a trick to doing this, please ?

I find it difficult to get good scans of copper coins unless they're Brilliant (ie red) uncirculated, so how does one achieve this ?
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 Posted 08/27/2012  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO, you are better off using the camera, though it is more labor intensive.

Make sure the coin is flat relative to the lens of the camera. Make sure the tripod is stable. Use macro mode and make sure the coin is straight and takes up most of the sensor. If the coin is straight beforehand, you don't have to rotate it on the computer, which reduces sharpness.

You generally want the lights at as high an angle as possible. For starters, I would put two lights at the 10:30 and 1:30 position at a high angle to the coin. Experiment, maybe you'll get a better result with three lights on larger coins. Try not to have other sources of light in the room, they'll just reduce contrast.

Shoot in RAW if you camera has that option. If not, you'll have to be sure to get the white balance, exposure and other settings close to perfect in the camera.
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 Posted 08/28/2012  02:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Babar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess I should just take a picture and see. Thanks for the advice, Captain, I will try it out. Pity I never get home before dark... also a pity I don't have some sort of slanting furniture at home...I'm going to have to think about how I can position everything so that the camera itself won't cast a shadow on the coin with the two lights there...I'll try the 10:30/1:30 (also how I do my fly-fishing ), and post my results when I can. My camera DOES happen to have raw, but I've yet to figure out all those options when I load the images on to my computer .

In the mean time, some examples of results from scanning (without any postprocessing):
Basics-For-Getting-Good-Pictures

And for the benefit of Pertinax, a copper coin I scanned about the size of a cent:
Basics-For-Getting-Good-Pictures

As far as scanning goes, I too almost always have loads of incorrectly aligned coins. I simply have to go later and rotate them in photoshop (or any other image program).

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 Posted 08/28/2012  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My biggest problem with scanners is the angle of the lights relative to the scan sensor. This is most obvious on the first scan, where the image almost appears as a "negative" with the light and dark areas inverted from what is normally captured. Notice that all the design features have a bright "halo" effect. This is actually a desired method for showing varieties since it emphasizes surface textures and details but is unnatural looking for whole-coin shots.
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 Posted 08/28/2012  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Babar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for the double post, but here are the same two type of coins, this time photographed. Unfortunately, it seems that The light I had on the right was more powerful than the one on the left, so it is more brightly lit from that side:
Basics-For-Getting-Good-Pictures
Basics-For-Getting-Good-Pictures

It certainly is bigger....and the scratches on my coins are more evident
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08/28/2012 10:41 am
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