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1823 Coin/Token/Ornament/Forgery?

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1823-Coin/Token/Ornament/Forgery?

1823-Coin/Token/Ornament/Forgery?

weight 4.4g, diameter 27.9mm, thickness 0.9mm, non-magnetic

The design and size matches the 1823 British gold £2 coin perfectly. It looks like it is made of brass (shame!). On the blank side is what appears to be a solder mark as if it was once affixed to something.

Any comments would be appreciated.
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 Posted 08/27/2012  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JMerrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The image is of Saint George slaying the dragon, a very, very common "English" image, though it also appears on coins from other countries as well. It looks like some sort of token, or remnants of a medal. You were probably correct in noting the old soldering, as it appears to have had a pin back at some time.
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This is a copy of a sovereign.

The idea would be that the brass would be polished to look gold and then mounted in jewellery to give the appearance that the wearer could afford a sovereign.

This is why there is no obverse image of a monarch struck, as this side would be facing the mount and would not be seen, so would be more expensive to strike whilst adding nothing to the piece.

How can I tell that its definitely not real? No.1 Its corroding, Gold wouldnt do this. No.2, the obverse shows no signs of ever being struck. At best, it could be a ground down silver coin with fake patina applied, but I highly doubt it.

A cool thing to have in my opinion, to show off forgeries.
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Yep, it's a low-quality jewellery copy, rather than an attempt at making either a circulating counterfeit sovereign or a card-counter jeton.

"1823" is probably not the actual date it was made, but nevertheless a reasonably close date to the actual date of manufacture; within a couple of decades, at most.
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