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Never Ever Buy Silver Bars From Ebay,

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 Posted 08/27/2012  7:37 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add silverdollar2011 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
= The loose silver bar on the left is an example of a genuine sunshine minting bar=.
hey guys, I accidently bought some fake sunshine minting bars from a seller on ebay whose supposedly non profit... I was already suspicious prior to buying because the price he was selling at was very close to spot. When I received them I immediately took out the scale and weighed them, one weighed 0.9ozt while the other weighed 1.1ozt. =.=, however they are not magnetic.
Heres the link:
this is just a heads up to watch out for fakes on ebay, I'd recommend buying directly from First Majestic Mining Corp for the best price thats close to melt. Monarch is a bit sketchy, other sites such as Provident Metals and APMEX are very legit.
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08/28/2012 12:53 am
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 Posted 08/27/2012  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swrbxxx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like he has pretty good feedback
acid test? cut one open?
maybe your scale is off
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 Posted 08/27/2012  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jokingjoker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did you weigh them in grams? They may be close enough to be within tolerance. I would like a little more info before I make a definitive decision on authenticity.
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 Posted 08/27/2012  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverdollar2011 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the responses, I'm very positive that these aren't genuine. The first bar weighs 30.77g while the second one weighs 31.76g.
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 Posted 08/27/2012  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swrbxxx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those are within reason, perform a acid test, or cut one in half
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 Posted 08/27/2012  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverdollar2011 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does not smell like any of my other genuine silver bars, these bars smell like rust also it does not sound like silver when dropped, it sounds like zinc.
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 Posted 08/27/2012  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller probably got them off of AliBaba.com:

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/5..._plated.html

The image on this profile is stock, and I assume not exactly what it looks like. The seal is off and the lettering is in the wrong font.

Sorry, man.
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 Posted 08/27/2012  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add starbuxinvestor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looking at the mix of items this seller has it very well could be a non-profit selling donated items. It very well could be they were duped by whoever donated the bars for the deduction. At least if non-profit in the ebay world means what it does in my world.
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 Posted 08/27/2012  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swrbxxx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
smell, sounds!

cut one open already! post some pictures
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 Posted 08/27/2012  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jokingjoker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did you file a claim on ebay?
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 Posted 08/27/2012  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silvercoinrn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is funny that I know what you mean about the smell!
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 Posted 08/27/2012  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unholyroller to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds like zinc? If that were the case it would be made of something far less dense than silver and would weigh in a lot less than what you are stating, or if the weight was right, it would be wayyyyyyy bigger. If you are that sure they are fake....cut one open already or at least do a file cut to see if it is brass inside.
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 Posted 08/27/2012  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverdollar2011 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm unable to cut it because I'm currently in the process of requesting a refund via a PayPal claim lol. You guys should watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFpKuziIJTo.
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 Posted 08/27/2012  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CPC24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely fake, but a good fake. The font is a little different, and the corners are too sharp.
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 Posted 08/27/2012  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swrbxxx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now as a avid ebay seller what you are doing silverdollar2011 is a huge pet peeve.

First off, are you 100% certain this item is "fake", no acid test has been done, or even a simple file down or cut test. I can see you requesting for a refund if you did either or, and these items were in fact fake. The seller would have to take them back even if they were cut in half.

What if you tested these items properly and they are in fact genuine, you basically slandered a seller on a public forum, and made false claims.

It's buyer's who jump the gun who make ebay sellers not want to sell anymore.
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 Posted 08/27/2012  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks just like this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-One-Troy-...em27ca865830

I've bought a lot of silver over the years and had some bars 0.1 or 0.2 grams shy of full weight.

I've never had a fake one. I don't think you do either.
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