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1891 Victoria Jubilee Crown - Cracked Die? Sell/Grade/Return

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 Posted 09/04/2012  11:56 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add wdwms to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Ok I picked this up for $135, but I can return it.. From what I can tell it has been cleaned, I'd put it at VF+, so with the cleaning I'll bring it down to a VF. Now whats interesting is that I believe this was made with a cracked die. Check out the photos below and tell me what you think. These are raised areas, it is not a scratch. You can feel it if you run over it with your fingernail. On a 10x loop its clear this is a ridge, not a valley.

Based on what I paid, grade, cleaning, possible die crack.. do I return it? Sell it? or grade it?

What I paid I think is fair for its condition, numismaster says $95 for VF and $260 for XF, as a point of reference. There are hairlines in the same direction, hence why I feel its been cleaned, plus it just doesn't look right for its age.

1891-Victoria-Jubilee-Crown---Cracked-Die?-Sell/Grade/Return
1891-Victoria-Jubilee-Crown---Cracked-Die?-Sell/Grade/Return
1891-Victoria-Jubilee-Crown---Cracked-Die?-Sell/Grade/Return
1891-Victoria-Jubilee-Crown---Cracked-Die?-Sell/Grade/Return
1891-Victoria-Jubilee-Crown---Cracked-Die?-Sell/Grade/Return
1891-Victoria-Jubilee-Crown---Cracked-Die?-Sell/Grade/Return
1891-Victoria-Jubilee-Crown---Cracked-Die?-Sell/Grade/Return

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1891-Victoria-Jubilee-Crown---Cracked-Die?-Sell/Grade/Return
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09/04/2012 12:07 pm
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 Posted 09/04/2012  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's nice to see a crown with a cracked die.

Presumably it was a die near the end of its life with the possibility that some parts of the design are less well defined - for example, the medal on her shoulder.

I think I would grade this as VF/GVF, so possibly worth a bit less than the price you paid.
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 Posted 09/04/2012  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reasonably pleasing coin. The price is OK. The die crack adds a little interest. The hairlines do not really show up all that well in the pictures shown here. I guess the hairline are the reason for your lessened enthusiasm for this coin.

Depends on your heart and interests. It is certainly NOT a dissapointing coin.
I am into World coins, and my motivation would be to keep it.

If your heart is not in it, there would be some changeover costs to do so. I do NOT think they would be justified.

I would agree with the grade VF / gVF.
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Yes the hairlines are the reason... I don't mind toning, but the hairlines just tell me that someone has taken away what I want. The seller had it listed as AU, but I know better than that. I think I can find a better coin for around the same price.. I'm going to send it back..
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