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1864 And 1865 Philadelphia Quarter Dol.

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 Posted 09/06/2012  8:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add gustafsa to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi guys, I am new to coins and recently found these two gems in my Dad's coin collection. They were graded by MTB Banking as MS64's.. but I am looking to get general prices on them. I went to a few coin dealers and they kinda said they aren't worth anything maybe $250.. Now I know they are worth more than that because my Dad was smart enough to put some type of price on them, but I'm just curious if it's really what it says. Looking to get some advice, trying to figure out if they are worth to keep or maybe just to get graded by a reputable service and sell them. Please give me some advice! Thanks!

Ashley

Coin is not scratched.. it's just the holder it's in.

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Second batch of photos.. hope these are better!
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09/06/2012 11:02 pm
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 Posted 09/06/2012  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kasey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pictures would definitely help, PCGS and NGC are considered the best grading services and pretty much the lower tier ones have to be treated as raw pieces. If properly graded at 65 they would bring in more around the 1700-2000 dollar range each....
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You did kind of have to ignore the grading because of who did it. But they did low ball you by a lot as most dealers do. You can look them up on ebay completed listings and see what theyre going for and http://www.numismedia.com/fmv/fmv.shtml.

Youre best bet would be to sell them yourself if you want top dollar and are looking to sell.

And
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 Posted 09/06/2012  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gustafsa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I have learned the company that graded it.. def needs to be disregarded. However, I believe since I go into these coin dealers and they think because I am a young woman I probably don't know too much about what I have. I normally always walk away and they call me days later asking me if I still have what I brought in. I just want to be more educated. :)
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 Posted 09/06/2012  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First welcome to the site. If I were you, I'd pay the money to get these graded by either NGC or PCGS. It will cost you a few bucks but well worth it. Find a local dealer that can submit them for you but make sure you tell the dealer the coins are not for sale until you get them back from the grader.
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I believe since I go into these coin dealers and they think because I am a young woman I probably don't know too much about what I have


Honestly thats probably exactly what happens and they think they can get a heck of a deal off you. I'm a late 20s male and I get the same thing because I'm younger from the local shops. Aside from wasting my time all it does is hurt them as I wont do business with them anymore.
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 Posted 09/06/2012  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gustafsa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
basebal21.. I know,it makes your feel so belittled. This is totally off topic but.. I walked into a reputable jeweler to try to sell a Rolex I have as well.. and he looked at me looked at the watch for a second and said it was fake and asked me to leave. I couldn't understand why he wouldn't give me the time of day and than to insult me saying this watch was FAKE.. it's not, I got it checked out by Rolex I just have no papers. I will NEVER be going back there again. Keep up the good work and prove them wrong!
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Here's a link to PCGS authorized dealers http://www.pcgs.com/dealers/ you should be able to find one near where you live and virtually all of the PCGS dealers are also NGC members and you can send your quarters to whichever service you choose. Or, you can ask them to recommend which one to submit them to.

As was mentioned before, be sure they understand that the coins are not for sale and don't let on that they might be once they come back from the grading service.

Once you get the coins back you'll be able to get an idea of their actual worth and then you'll have options as to how to go about selling them.

Ed
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09/06/2012 10:52 pm
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Do these look like proof strikes to anyone else? I'm not well versed in high grade material but these at least have to be high AU if not MS. Anyways GREAT coins, you should consider having either PCGS or NGC grade them before selling in order to get the best return.

Edit: With new photos posted they look like business strikes and most likely BU.
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09/06/2012 11:17 pm
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gustafsa agreed. May work for them a few times but they lose more business in the long run. Dont understand it from a business standpoint.

If you are interested in selling these if you send me a message theres a dealer in FLA who I deal with over the internet whose always been more than fair with me that deals in these older coins. Not sure if hed be interested or what he could offer, but he should at least be honest (he always has been with me anyway).
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MTB 2 holders, you rarely see those. These were holdered back in the late 80's when prices were going crazy and reaching levels that haven't been seen since then. if he bought them back then there is a good chance they are currently worth well less than what he paid for them. I'd say these could be accurately graded from what I see in the pictures.
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Joe:
You beat me to it, I thought that they looked like proofs also.

Look at the rims, and they are very strong strikes.
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i don't think they're proofs...proofs are very rare for these dates
higher end MS grades is more likely
Ashley, ...sweet looking quarters

entertain yourself with American History via this read...also, here is a quote from the article that you should find intriguing


Quote:
Among the later dates, the toughest to find in Mint State are the San Francisco coins from 1856-1865 and, to a lesser extent, the Philadelphia coins of 1863-1865.


http://www.ngccoin.com/NGCCoinExplo...rty-Quarters
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09/10/2012 4:00 pm
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Gorgeous quarters! Never seen those holders before either. Totally awesome!
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 Posted 09/11/2012  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gustafsa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was actually going to ask about how "rare" they are, as I have been told they are nothing special and they are not interested in them because they are so common. From what I am reading there is not many around or am I wrong? Looks like my Dad made a nice find at the auction. :)
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use that link to NGC to read population reports and also check PCGS rarity scale...use that knowledge to counter the dealers nonsense and let them know you know your stuff
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