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 Posted 09/13/2012  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, the original coin has four fingers. And yeah, I would say it is a fake. No knock on your dealer, but I would send it in to ANACS to verify and take it back to him if it is indeed the fake we think it is.
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 Posted 09/15/2012  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aardspeed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is this a Trade dollar?

Someone called it that but unsure.



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 Posted 09/15/2012  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cursive to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, that looks like a Walking Liberty half dollar, but the date seems strange. It looks like it says 1906, when it wasn't minted until 1916.
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 Posted 09/15/2012  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aardspeed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It weigh's 26.5 grams & does say United States 1 oz silver on the other side.

I've been told its a fake " Trade dollar", but ?
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 Posted 09/15/2012  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cursive to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could you post a picture of the reverse?
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 Posted 09/15/2012  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It weigh's 26.5 grams & does say United States 1 oz silver on the other side.

I've been told its a fake " Trade dollar", but ?

If it says that on the Reverse then it is definitely not even a real coin, it is a bullion piece but that doesn't mean its even real silver. It could be some base metal especially looking at how poorly it was made. If these came from the same dealer then I have to say this dealer is one I would stay away from. The Obverse design of this coin is of the Walking Liberty half dollar as was stated above not any type of Trade dollar
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 Posted 09/15/2012  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aardspeed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My bad, the 1906 is 28grams & the 1911 I also have is 26.5grams....

Seems most of my pics are way too big for the optimizer too :(

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 Posted 09/15/2012  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1906? 1911? Using an obverse design which wasn't first sculpted until half a decade later? Um, this is pretty obvious....
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by the looks of the close up shots in the last photo I am going to guess this isn't even silver, its just a modern day fantasy piece that takes one Obverse of one coin and the Reverse of another and pieces them together. This looks to have the Reverse of the Silver Eagle which would say 1 oz fine silver~One Dollar and the Obverse of the Walking Liberty. The grainy/mushy appearance and the color makes me think it is just a base metal and pretty much worthless. And as I said before if these came from the same person you need to find a new dealer because everything you have shown is not real US coins
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 Posted 09/15/2012  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a counterfeit American Silver Eagle from a well known series.

Here's the 1900 variety on The Black Cabinet which should share the same reverse die: http://fakes.numismetrica.com/2012/...1-1900-0001/

I also have 1903s in that series that I haven't posted yet, but I've been looking for a 1906 for a while now so sweet find (provided you didn't pay an ASE or Trade dollar's price). :-)

Fair Market Value (as a counterfeit, to a counterfeit collector; in that shape) is roughly ~$2-4.
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Unfortunately, it appears you have some fakes (pretty obvious ones) on your hands.

I feel bad for you and sympathiize with you.

The good thing is you came to this Forum and now know these coins are fake and that dealer is, perhaps, not as knowledgable as he probably should be...
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 Posted 09/15/2012  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aardspeed to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My uncle passed away a few years back & left me numerous sports cards, coins & antiques.

I'm unsure where he got these coins from, but it seems he collected a vast variety of coins from all over the world.





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