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What Are You Feelings On Toned Coins?

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Personally I like toned coins, but I only like coins that have been naturally toned. Early on I found out the hard way that coins can be toned by UN-natural processes chemically. After some study and research I can usually spot the chemically toned coins. I will admit that some of the Coin Doctors are pretty good but actually that's what gives em away because of the colors that show up on the coins. I have coins that I'm toning naturally and have been doing so for a while now. It actually takes years naturally and one must have the right conditions to do so.
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As a general rule I don't favor toned coins bowever when it comes right down to it it would depend upon the looks of the coin. Some of the toning looks way unnatural and those I steer clear of.
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Some of them look great but it would take a lot,and I mean a lot of time and effort to learn the difference between AT and NT so I stay away from buying any toned coins but I do keep some that I find roll searching.
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If the coin is silver and a century old I would expect some toning, if it is pure white I would think it had been cleaned in some way. There is attractive toning and down right ugly toning so it's up to the collector to decide if it is a fit for their collection.
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To John 1 I would say the ones that you find in your roll searching would probably be naturally toned. The reason that I say that I can usually tell doctored coins is that I have toned coins with chemical toners some that professed to be natural ingredients so I have some idea of what to look for.
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Thanks to all who have replied thus far. Please keep your comments coming because I feel that this may bring out many different views on this subject.
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I moved this post to the Main forum for more attention.

As for me, I have grown to appreciate toned coins.
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You know what I don't like about toned coins? I can't capture the beauty of them! Example, my 7070 Trade dollar (below) is beautiful (IMO), but I have not been able to capture the colors correctly;

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(David Lawrence Auction image)
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You know what I need? Practice...and a photography set-up that won't be in the way of anyone so that it can stay the way it is, once I get it figured out.
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I'm not a big fan of toned coins and wouldn't pay a premium for them.
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I thinked toned coins are just wonderful. I love rainbow looks, golden colors, and other colors and it makes a coin stand out and give it character. It really doesn't matter to me whether it is artificial or natural toning.
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Toned coins are alright if they are attractive and somewhat uniform. There are a lot of toned coins on ebay that are down right ugly be it from artificial methods or that have crossed beyond attractive to that dark and dingy look. I definitely would not pay the premiums that are placed on many.

I have to agree with oih82w8 on the photography part. I have yet to take a picture that comes close to the actual appearance of a toned coin.
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I'm not a big fan of toned coins and wouldn't pay a premium for them.
I would not pay a premium for the tone, but I would not exclude one from my collection. Overall eye appeal is my guide.
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A number of the toned coins that I have seen really draw away from the beauty of the coin itself. The ones that I have to study to find the details that I'm looking go back on the dealer's shelf where they came from.

I feel that if I have to study a coin in order to see what it is, then there is just to much confusion and lack of eye appeal for me. However, that being said there are a number of toned coins out there that are truly appealing. Still I don't know enough about the subject to discern artificial from natural toning, so it's all about eye appeal.
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I picked this dime (1854-P) up a couple months ago (I normally don't buy raw), but the seller cracked it out for his Dansco 7070 and is selling off his collection, and I bid on it because of the tone, fortunately the realized price did not exceed the FMV or my max bid. I thought that it was another one of those "hard to capture" coins and I was right, it's a humdinger!

(sellers original image)

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Instead of clogging up this thread, here is the folder (19 images) link in which I tried to capture the colors with different angles, rotations and background;

http://s631.photobucket.com/albums/...erty%20Dime/
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You know what I don't like about toned coins? I can't capture the beauty of them! Example, my 7070 Trade dollar (below) is beautiful (IMO), but I have not been able to capture the colors correctly;


Have we ever talked about this in the Photography Forum? If not, drop a thread in there about shooting toners and we'll discuss axial photography. Don't forget to list your equipment; whatever you're using, you're good enough right now that I think we can solve your color problems in quick order.

I will stare at a nice toner for hours (OK, minutes). I understand why some will pay obsessive prices for them because....well....obsessive is what we do here. But I'm not going to spend that money.
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To me a toned coin is something that has gone wrong with an object. Yes many like those and many collect them. Still I like originality. To me a toned coin is like modifying an old oil painting, old furnature or old cars. There are many that change lots of things on an old car, add a V8 motor to a Model T Ford. I'd just rather have the original.
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