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Capped Bust 1836 Overton-108?

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Any Help?(see the part at the lower loop of the 8.)
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This looks like it might be the 1836/1336 O-108, but I cannot see the date clearly enough to be certain. I don't know if the third picture you added was to be a close-up of the date, but it is actually the reverse from a different coin. The lighting on the third picture is much better than the lighting on the first two and it would be better if you would use those settings and the lighter background for your future images. Also, if you are not using a tripod or a way to keep the camera completely steady, that would help, also. It would make the images a lot sharper and easier to see the originality of the fields and any die cracks.

The markers for the O-108 are:

Obverse 5: The stars are small and sharp. The 8 is over an erroneously cut earlier 3 with the knob of the earlier 3 visible inside the lower loop of the 8; the 3 in 36 is well closed. On choice specimens, signs of the first curves of the 3 under the 8 are also visible.

Reverse F: 50 C. is high with the 5 well formed with a sharply curved and pointed top. The longer arrow shaft is broken under the eagle's claw and the stub shows clearly. The I is centered under the right side of the T. Some specimens show a dot or lump left of the upper serif of the second T in STATES.


If your coin is the later die state O-108a, the markers are the same as above with the following additions:

Obverse 5-s2: A die crack shows at the base of the date with another joining all of the stars on the right.

Reverse F: No additions.


As far as the grade, I'm pretty sure that this coin has been cleaned. I see VF30-35 details, though. There is a little too much wear in the hair and on the eagle's claws to warrant an EF grade, in my opinion.
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Sorry....


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I really need this image to be in brighter light and sharper. It looks like you are not putting the camera on a stable surface to take the pictures. This is especially important when taking pictures of coins (or any smaller object) as every little movement will affect the sharpness of the image. I can't determine if this is an overdate or not from this image. Sorry.
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here are good pictures


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 Posted 09/18/2012  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These pictures are much, much better!

I definitely see the outline of the 3 under the 8.
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 Posted 09/18/2012  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinguy1000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
would this be 108 or 108A?
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would this be 108 or 108A
Hello,

Are any decent on-line resources in existence with photos that delve into detail clarifying these type of features for coins like this and other similar ones but with different years?

I am new to this area but am very interested in this subject.

Thanks,
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Are any decent on-line resources in existence with photos that delve into detail clarifying these type of features for coins like this and other similar ones but with different years?

Yes, For Capped Bust half dollars determine the T/I relationship:
http://coinzip.wix.com/bust-half-do...tribute/1830
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Coinguy,

Excellent and helpful suggestion: just what I was looking for.

A great visually interactive learning tool.

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I don't see the crack at the base of the date, though it might be faint and you could see it with the coin in-hand. If the crack isn't there, as stated above, it is the O-108.
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For the grade, I'd say XF just polished/dipped real bad
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