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Attempting To Start A Local Kids' Program?

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I have a source to help get you all get started.

Before I left for New Hampshire someone on the CCF asked for help in doing just this. I replied that I would ask around at the NH Coin Expo.
Now I cannot find the link to his request!

The link is:
http://www.worcestercoinclub.org/

If you approach them politely, I have been assured that you will be answered.

Here in New England, there is a positive regional effort to reach out to kids just starting out. Worcester sends Jack to Manchester to host a kids talk. Freebies are handed out. Heck, I told them to direct the kids and their parents to our table and I let each kid pick a "V" nickel
from a mystery bag. You know, the parents are especially appreciative when a dealer/collector can speak to kids in kid's language. Often, the kid knows more about coins than the parent!

But Chris, that little so and so! Every ten minutes he asked me if I had anything else to show him. Well, how could I say "No?" It was his dad who told me to recommend the Worcester site to the CCF members.

On top of it all, the co-president is the guy who runs our BCCS web site! I have sat next to him at our table three times since a year ago last July.

A brief survey of dealers at the NH show revealed the same sentiment as I have:
1) Without kids to take up the hobby, who will eventually buy our stuff?
2) Coin collecting has reached a crisis: the talent is tied to the past and the interest lies in the future. Brick and mortar shops and the Internet.

I am quite determined to work to bridge this gap.
I invite you all to join me.
Thank you for your kind attention.




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09/21/2012 1:49 pm
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Matt, nice work. Here in Michigan the state doesn't have a standard ( Grade Level Content Expectations) for K-12, for any student to learn about money. I' not talking about different types but the actual math of adding and subtracting money. So counting money and using actual transactions ie. you buy $16.40 in goods and pay with a $20. What is the change? Most student's can't do this in their heads, or know how to physically give back the change, if they work at a store the cash register machine tells them the amount to give back.
This is sad, I'm a recently retired middle school teacher and questioned this factor about the MI. GLCE
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09/21/2012 5:09 pm
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Hah! I feel your pain, bpoc1.
When presented with a bill for $16.40, I offer to pay with a twenty and a one and forty cents.
I expect a five dollar bill back. [ Yes, I still use exact change or an equivalent. ]
( I let the store keep their singles. Especially a small store. )
Most older counter folk can handle this.
But the kids at McBurger cannot.

Oh, in answer to your question, $3.60. What is SO hard about this?

We can not only help these kids, sadly too few, to learn about coins but also
teach a bit of remedial math in the process.
These kids are SMART and are also willing to learn.
Their parents are willing to help.
It is an honor and a privilege for me to do so. And a lot of fun for me.

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I think its important : I started young, I just picked out non standard £1 coins, and then just took it all.

Its also important to be able to do the maths. Only a few of the people in my school got taught predecimal notation - soon, no-one will be able to do it.
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A nod and a wink to our friends in Great Britain!

This poor photo, which graced the cover of our Journal, shows an effort to teach math/how to make change to the kids of 1916. And beyond.

Will someone please update it to teach the kids of today?

Let's all teach the kids!

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Great pics from your YN program at the New Hampshire Coin Expo!
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Not our program, ArrowsandRays, but that of the New England
Numismatic Association.
We are blessed here with a lot of inter-group cooperation and mutual support.

NENA sponsors the talk in NH. Worcester, MA sends the speaker. And I [CT] hand out "V" nickels after the presentation. THAT is cooperation!
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Heres a tip: If the kids know they can make money then BOOM, theres the interest. thats how I got into it - my uncle showed me a commemoratives and said 'this £1 coin is worth slightly more than £1 each. as long as you own it, it will never be worth less than £1'.

The only other young person I know doing it is to make money - he sells anything he finds., typically making over 100% profit per coin.

Once kids are interested, they'll find out what else is out there. I wouldnt know anything about other bits of numismatics if I hadnt looked at what was worth more.
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This poor photo, which graced the cover of our Journal, shows an effort to teach math/how to make change to the kids of 1916. And beyond.
Nice photo!

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Will someone please update it to teach the kids of today?
I see no reason to update it, other than to remove the useless (and soon to be eliminated) cent.
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jbuck, to this day I remember ...
... standing in line at a post office for 20 minutes, to buy two, one cent stamps.
After a recent postal increase.
The introduction of a "Forever First Class" stamp MAY put an end to this and pave the way for the elimination of the one cent piece.
A step in the right direction?

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I remember those days as well.

Now, all of the posts offices in my area have cashless vending. Cents are already useless there.

When they made the switch, it upset me because I anticipated the PO being a long term source for baby dollars. However, I have not bought a book of stamps in over two years now, so I guess it does not matter what form of payment they accept.
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I am sure that todays kids would be quite efficient at Numismatics if given the chance. The hobby is no longer just collecting coins. Kids are so efficient at computer programmes, mobile phone cameras etc. I am sure they would take a fraction of the time it takes for someone like me to obtain a coin, identify, check for errors, die cracks and other interesting anomalies, photograph, crop and maximize quality.! A great range of skills for any young person to master.! (and it is fun)!! Good luck with your project.!
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