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2010 $1 Girl Guide Rim Markings In PNC

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 Posted 09/25/2012  05:54 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add awildeheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all, I was going through my PNCs and was looking closely at my 2010 Girl Guide PNC as I was quite unhappy with the quality of the coin.

But, I noticed the rim has very unusual markings at 6 and 12 o'clock, particularly more so at 12 o'clock. These two smooth areas (between the alternating lined areas in a rim) show distinct scraping marks as if the coin was caught top and bottom somewhere, somehow.

It is hard to capture on camera because of the packaging, but here are two images of the 12 o'clock rim using two different levels of light.

2010-$1-Girl-Guide-Rim-Markings-In-PNC

2010-$1-Girl-Guide-Rim-Markings-In-PNC

This is the 6 o'clock rim marking.

2010-$1-Girl-Guide-Rim-Markings-In-PNC

It definitely isn't the packaging and as I bought it from RAM or the post office I would safely assume it hasn't been tampered with (and being in a sealed unit anyway it obviously is tamper-proof).

Any thoughts on how this occurred and/or whether anyone has seen this type of error before?

Thanks, M
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 Posted 09/25/2012  08:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add awildeheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Played around with my digital camera as well and this shot shows the rim damage on the top of the coin much better.

2010-$1-Girl-Guide-Rim-Markings-In-PNC

You can see how the scrape marks are at a 90 deg rotation to the usual rim lines, and how it extends into the usual rim lines as well.
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Hi awildeheart,Not sure what would cause that,that area of the rim looks slightly higher than the rest of the rim in the last pic,like an impact ?
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PMD caused at the mint?
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that area of the rim looks slightly higher


Hi appleangel07, actually it is flat, so given that the rim is curved, it is lower in the middle than what it should be, and raises the outer limits a little where it extends into the rim lines.


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PMD caused at the mint?


Oooooooer, Enworb, I like your sense of humour! Surely you are taking the mickey?

To say the mint caused PMD, would be a like of PMD causes ... just had to use that emoticon ...
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I was being serious unfortunately. It looks like damage to me. Post mint damage maybe better named post strike damage. The fact that it isn't raised seems to further suggest to me that it is a scrape of sorts. If I were you I would return it and try and get an example that isn't like that.
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Hi all. Re the markings on the rim of this coin, I bought another specimen of this PNC in order to have a perfect version (but retained the first specimen as well in case it turns out to be an error).

However, the coin in this second PNC also has this type of marking on the rim, but not to the same extent.

None of my other PNCs collected over the years have these markings on them, so surely that proves it can't be part of the PNC assembly process?

So now I'm wondering, how many coins of the same denomination and year with this type of unusual marking, have to be found in order for these rim marks to become recognised as an error or variety?

Surely I can't have the only two copies of this particular "mint damaged" coin in existence - what are the odds of that?

Thanks, M
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Topic moved to 'Australian Commemoratives and Non-Circulating Coinage (NCLT)' forum at OP's request.
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 Posted 11/21/2012  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add awildeheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, I purchased my third PNC and finally have an unadultered version - sans rim markings.

I am really keen to hear if other CCF members have thius PNC or individual coin with these markings.
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