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Here's A Error And A Variety In One Dime

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Recently bought this one on the Bay that I never encounter before, and is also graded by ANACS. A large S FS-511 and also a partial collar strike coin, but with counting wheel damage? I can't see where that maybe. I couldn't miss out on this baby, anyway, pictures to follow: The obverse image is from seller, as I couldn't get a good image out of it, but the pictures with slab and the reverse images is by me, as seller images was somewhat distorted.

The new ANACS slab are not what I thought it would be quality wise, as it feels somewhat fragile comparing to PCGS or NGC slabs, and slightly thinner.

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 Posted 09/29/2012  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do not see the counting wheel damage ... but you purchased it as such with full knowledge of the ANACS opinion.

With the coin in hand ... what is your view?

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Very cool mercury! It's neat that you can link it with a variety like this. Isn't the counting wheel damage just that area in the center of the reverse. On a lot of counting wheel damage that I've seen on similar broadstrikes and partial collars its just a slight change of the surface. Usually its just a lusterous surface to a prooflike surface transition instead of the circular scratch you see from rolling machines these days.

Edit: also notice that it was struck with an inverted die installation, something that is common for the series.
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09/29/2012 10:43 pm
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nickelsearcher,

Thanks for asking. I sincerely don't detect any counting wheel damage either, if there are any, it would be two tiny marks on the reverse near the branch leaves under A in America. I have to enlarge 300% to the images in order to see it, as its hard to see with my naked eye.

I do however believe ANACS should have labeled as Tilted Partial Collar Strike, I can barely see any reeding around, if it not for small part above Liberty cap, I would think it should be a Uncentered Broadstrike.
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Errorcoins222,

Thanks for pointing it out! The reverse area that's in question looks more like Scuffing in many of the Merc dimes I have seen, but again I haven't compare enough Uncentered Broadstrike coins with that type of problem.
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That is one sweet error, and as a strong error coin & currency (world) error collector, I believe it is acceptable to expect some type of damage on errors as they eject from the dies, etc... I'm not to keen on ANACS (even though I use them) as they messed up on the description on some errors I had purchased from Fred Weinberg some years back... In the end it's only their opinion, and sometimes you have to ask yourself who are going to believe, some young grader (IMHO) or someone with 50 years experience...
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Very nice coin.
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I am not sure if this is what ErrorCoins222 was referring to but this might be wheel mark that ANACS saw. You might need to have a light source shine on the coin at a shallower angle and perpendicular to it in order to see it. Let us know if there is anything going on there. That is a really neat coin, BTW!
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Here's a few more pictures with what I think is where the damage is, it is faint to the point without a 10x loupe I wouldn't see it in first hand.

I took shots with subdue lighting, to Not capture the luster on the reverse. LOL...but as anyone can see where I circle the problem area.

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Im thinking they are talking about the bottom of the D and E in Dime.
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I am not sure if this is what ErrorCoins222 was referring to but this might be wheel mark that ANACS saw.


Yep, that's what I was thinking of. Sorry I was not more specific.


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Im thinking they are talking about the bottom of the D and E in Dime.

The absence of portions of letters, especially on the bottom near the rim, are common on broadstruck coins. It seems really random to me as to which letters show this effect. I don't believe this is the damage anacs saw on this coin.
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I guess that's why grader likes to be in a dark room with a single source of lighting, using it to specifically to search for these signs. I couldn't see it without help of a loupe, but with good digital camera, most details can be reviewed.

I also wanted to add broadstruck coins are common, but with a combined MM variety, that's uncommon.
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are there 2 tiny gouges in the coin below the first A in AMERICA and could this be the damage. The tops of several letters are missing, that isn't it.
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