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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have this chance to buy this Apollonia Pontica at a nice price. I have searched the fakes databases, but did not find anything like it. However, the weight and size seem like it is off a little. I have another that is 3.13g, 14-15mm, bu the seller says this one is 1.27g, 10mm. First, does anyone question the appearance of this coin and second, is there a large fluctuation in measurements on these type? These are the sellers images:   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't really question it's authenticity but I do think the engraving style looks a bit off compared to others I have looked at.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This weight is right. I am not familiar with this type at double weight. Do you have a photo of that one?
I am hesitant to buy any coin of this type unless I am sure of it. I have doubts about the style on this one so I would not buy it. That does not mean it is bad but just that I don't like the look. There are many more dies of the fakes than are posted online as I understand the matter so the coin remains one to buy with a certificate or from a top notch (not bargain) dealer.
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Hi Bing ... Hey, here is my example: (it is still at David Sear's Ranch in California getting the ol' yah, or nay) ... Diameter: 11.24mm Weight: 1.26 grams  Edited by stevex6
10/05/2012 1:37 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I searched ForgeryNetwork too--and did not find a match. Then I went on acsearch, and found quite a few with a similar portrait style. The snarling Gorgon style, like above, appears to be closer to the archaic era. The portraits that look more like Apollo are dated 350-300 BC. Judging from the weight, it could be a diobol?  The "New York Hoard" forgeries appear to be much more archaic in style. The coin in question is well-struck/centered, but the style seems consistent with later examples. Honestly, I like it-- but I wish that meant something in terms of authenticity. Edited by DVCollector
10/05/2012 2:54 pm
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Canada
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I to do not get too close to these widely forged coins either. The style is "weird", the obverse is very similar (if not identical) to the following fake...  Edited by Dionysos
10/05/2012 3:28 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Well, thanks for all the input. I decided to take the chance with this one. If there is any question once I have it in hand, I will send it off for authentication.
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Geeez, Bing => man, you seem to be dancing around a few coins that are far closer to the ol' fake-line than your usual targets (feelin' a bit like a gambler, or what?) ...  ... man, I'm a bit surprised that DVC didn't send you that Deniro video-clip!! (ummm, for the record => your coin looked a wee bit like the fake that Batman posted!!?) ... I'm just sayin' ...  Edited by stevex6
10/05/2012 4:41 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I don't like the style on this one at all. It looks modern to my eyes though I haven't handled any of these coins. The series is too toxic for me to take any risks.
Martin
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Geeez, Bing => man, you seem to be dancing around a few coins that are far closer to the ol' fake-line than your usual targets Not because I'm trying. Even though I value the opinions of most everyone here, I thought (and still think) the coin to be genuine. I will be sending it off for authentication once it arrives which brings me to asking for Sear's address to send it off. Thanks. |
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United States
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Steve  Well...I have learned a lesson--that I shouldn't try too hard to convince myself either way. I did wonder about the centering. But, if there's one difference between Dionysos' example and JW's--it's how a drill was apparently used to form the "A" as well as the nose on the portrait--a common tool used in ancient die-making. When I looked at confirmed fakes, it appears no forgers thought of doing that--for what that's worth. |
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United States
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I think it might be a fake it is supposed to be my 'blue' coin.
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http://www.davidrsear.com/certification.htmlThere ya go => good luck Bing (if you send your coin, I hope that you get great reviews => it's a great looking coin!!) Oh, by the way => when DVC originally sent me that Deniro clip, I paid the extra $25 to get a quick response (and David Sear did respond within a month) ... ... but recently, I sent him a large consignment of coins for authentication (to ease the future keeper's knee-jerk reactions to sell the whole lot as if they're all fake!! ... I have nightmares about that!) ... ummm, but because I didn't pay the premium for the "rush-job" this time around, it has been a couple of months and he is still "working on 'em" ... I'm just sayin'
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