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einhard Valued Member Ireland 86 Posts	Posted 10/05/2012 4:48 pm I' having a spot of bother attributing a Constantine I bronze, Arles mint. Below is the coin: Below is an exemplar of RIc VII 190: Wildwinds describes it thus: Constantine AE3. 319 AD. IMP CONSTANTINVS MAX AVG, helmeted, laureate & cuirassed bust right / VICTORIAE LAETAE PRINC PERP, two Victories facing & inscribing VOT PR on shield placed on altar, PARL in ex. So far, so good. The following though, seems to be an identical coin. It's RIC VII 193: It's described as: Constantine I AE3. 319 AD. IMP CONSTAN-TINVS MAX AVG. helmeted laureate bust right, cuirassed / VICTORIAE LAETAE PRINC PERP, two Victories facing & inscribing VOT PR on shield placed on altar, PARL in ex. The two descriptions are almost exactly identical, except for the dash in Constantinus (CONSTANTINVS vs CONSTAN-TINVS). So I thought, fair enough, there must be a distinction in the spacing of the name between the two coins. Except there's not. If you look, you can see that there is a break in the legend in both abve the bust. So what gives? I'm conflustered anyway! To confuse things further, the seller describes the coin as a follis. Yet the only follis coins from that mint listed on Wildwinds have completely different legends. Anyone able to shed some light on this conundrum? Report this Post to the Staff

Biancasdad Pillar of the Community United States 1045 Posts	Posted 10/05/2012 4:52 pm Einhard, The distinction here is the altar type. Notice the diamond with pellet in center and four corners for the RIC 193 example. Regards, -Kurt Report this Post to the Staff
Bing Pillar of the Community United States 4253 Posts	Posted 10/05/2012 4:54 pm Report this Post to the Staff
maridvnvm Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2100 Posts	Posted 10/05/2012 4:54 pm As far as I can see 190 and 193 differ based purely on the style of the altar. Report this Post to the Staff
einhard Valued Member Ireland 86 Posts	Posted 10/05/2012 5:09 pm D'oh!! Thanks for that. So obvious in hindsight. This is what happens when one spends two hours peering at coins through a magnifying glass!! Report this Post to the Staff
Archraz Pillar of the Community United States 3499 Posts	Posted 10/05/2012 5:16 pm einhard- Very nice coin of Constantine! Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 10/05/2012 5:28 pm Check out this web site, it should help answer your question: http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/asstVLLP Report this Post to the Staff
Biancasdad Pillar of the Community United States 1045 Posts	Posted 10/05/2012 5:36 pm For an extensive breakdown of altar types, etc, check out Helvetica's pages. If you haven't already seen her work you can check this link: http://www.catbikes.ch/coinstuff/coinstuff.htm Click upper left "RIC LISTS" then find your reverse type and download. IMHO, this is an invaluable resource for LBR's. Cheers, -Kurt Report this Post to the Staff
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