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My Collecting Dilemma With Morgans

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 Posted 10/09/2012  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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One of the problems with buying coins off of ebay especially for inexperienced collectors are the number of sellers who edit their photographs to hide problems so you have to be very careful who you buy from




Much like spotting cleaned coins in person, the more ebay listing you look at youll start to be able to notice the little lighting tricks that some sellers use so their coins are presented in the best possible fashion.
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 Posted 10/10/2012  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin was shipped out today, so I hope to receive it by Friday. A least I have the ebay buyer protection, just in case the coin looks completely different from the photos. I guess sellers also need to be careful how much they enhance their photos. If they get carried away with it, then they may be creating their own false advertisement. Now I'm really anxious to see this Morgan.
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 Posted 10/10/2012  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kellyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"The person imaging it is either very good, or very lucky. It's presented in the best-possible light, with excellent contrast and sharpness. I don't think the cheek will be as nice in-hand as it is in the image. Second: if the color is somewhat accurate - actually, even correcting the background to a more "white" appearance as it looks to be - that single-shade coloration resembles how a coin tones after a dipping/cleaning."
Does this mean that you believe tHe color and/or contrast were enhanced and that the background was white and the seller made it darker to his advantage? Are you determining this based upon the colors of the pic? I'm trying to understand how you
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 Posted 10/11/2012  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kellyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Whoops! Pressed wrong button!

Anyway I'm trying to understand what you are picking up so that I can avoid getting tricked by lighting...

Thanks for any insights!
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 Posted 10/11/2012  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scropper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Whether on purposer or not, the person who took the image has used a single source of flat light at an angle such that it's very difficult to see remaining mint luster. Instead of seeing variations of reflection (glare, as in cartwheel), you simply see one color light reflected. The entire field is simply white (actually, a very light brownish beige). It doesn't look to me like this coin was harshly cleaned or polished, but the angle makes it very difficult to tell.

The best way to learn how photographers trick potential buyers is to practice photography with a few coins in varying states, varying metals, various surface ocnditions. Keep the light sources consistent (though, you should change their configuration to see how that impacts the photograph).

I try very hard to NOT trick potential buyers, and that too can be difficult.
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 Posted 10/12/2012  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Captain Morgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have chosen to collect the more comman date Morgans in MS Raw.
The keys and semi keys I buy TPG most often NGC but have a few in PSGS and ANACS.
Bottom line as said before , you collect what you like and what makes you happy.
In the long run you will enjoy your collection for many years to come.
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 Posted 10/12/2012  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As always with any series, key dates should never be purchased raw.
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 Posted 10/13/2012  12:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, I had to take a break from writing my next Organic Chemistry lab report. I received the coin today, and it looks like it does in the ebay photo. However, it also has a hint of purple hue. Here is a raw scan of the coin. I was pleased that the scan captured the appearance of the coin accurately. I was afraid the color would be too washed out.

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IMO, the coloration/tone looks artificial, but I hope I'm wrong. Expert opinions?
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 Posted 10/13/2012  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cjtm92 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In that condition, there should be some luster. From the picture there are no hints of luster, but sometimes scans don't show the coin accurately.
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 Posted 10/14/2012  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going to take photos of the coin soon. I need to buy batteries for my digital camera. Hopefully, I can take pics that show the actual color/condition of the coin, although I think the raw scan did a pretty good job. By the way, can anyone recommend a good scale that I can buy to weigh my coins?
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 Posted 10/18/2012  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, I was able to take some photos of the coin. They have not been altered in any way, but I couldn't get the purple hue to show up. Maybe someone could still tell me if they notice anything? I also purchased a scale, and the weight was 26.78 grams. I tested the scale with calibration weights, and it was dead-on. It is very reliable. My question is whether or not this "artificial" toning (if it is) might cause an increase in weight, as in left-over residue? Thanks.

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