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1878-S Morgan

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What would be the obvious markers to look at in order to narrow down which possible VAM this Morgan would be?
I'm guessing checking for a doubled Liberty and examining the mint mark would be two of them, but is there anything else?
I am also trying to see the engraved wing reverse.
I have the short-nock variety.
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sjh241,

Of course pictures would be immensely helpful ...

On the 1878-S page at VAMWorld there is a hyperlink right after the long nock listings. Click on it and the listings are sorted by the combination of broken/complete 'r' and broken/unbroken star. If the coin has a complete 'r' and star, it's a short list.
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 Posted 10/12/2012  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kellyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And look carefully at the r. I spent over an hour trying to attribute a broken star, unbroken r and could not get it. When I triple checked the coin under better light, the top of the arc of the r was broken! That made it much easier...
ARgh!
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Well, this Morgan stumps me. I'll post some pics.
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The world of VAMs is totally new to me, but at least have have a few photos. I noticed the odd looking S on the 1878 and thought I try to see something here and just spent the afternoon learning a bit.

As near as I can tell, this sample is nothing special, but it does seem to me the S is slightly tilted to the left and some of the letters seemed to have a bit of doubling, though once the photos have been "optimized" to fit here I'm not certain how much can still be seen.

Anyway the thread has a '78S to look at.

1878-S-Morgan

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It may only apply to 78 S coins. But the right engraved wing feathers next to the body is one of the best ways to VAM this date.You have a full R in trust. I cant make the engraved feather from pictures.A close up would tell the story.LVA has a guide out for this date. Anyone serious about the 78S coins should have one .
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Posted Today 5 Hrs 16 Min ago

It may only apply to 78 S coins. But the right engraved wing feathers next to the body is one of the best ways to VAM this date.You have a full R in trust. I cant make the engraved feather from pictures.A close up would tell the story.LVA has a guide out for this date. Anyone serious about the 78S coins should have one.

Thanks. Perhaps I have a VAM 81, though trying to sort through all the possible variations is giving me a headache!!

The right wing (his right, our left) does seem funky.

1878-S-Morgan

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http://www.vamworld.com/1878-S+VAM-81
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Sorry I should have been more specific on the engraved feather area.They are the lower most part of the right wing where it meets the leg.I've seen the V81 up close and dont think it is one. But would like to help with this VAM. The 78 S vams are great to collect. Many can be bought for common money if not attributed. And there are many out there to be picked. Not speaking of the LN's of course.Very good pictures too.
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 Posted 02/03/2013  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigAppleBucky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the close up. Doesn't look too funky to me.

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In hand this coin this coin looks pretty nice with some yellow toning. Up close like this one can really see the corrosion.

At least I now know to look for long nocks, extra tail feathers, gouges, etc. on a routine basis.
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thats the B2aa reverse. it was used for two vams. The VAM 39 and 99. If you check VW , you will find which one it is. I've enjoyed helping with this coin.Its not a funky feather coin.
PS: The Funky Feathers are very special coins as they were treated with acid by the mint.SF was the only mint to use acid and it was unauthorized.The VAM 81 is a coin to behold.And the one I would call the Acid Queen.The VAMs 49, 50 and 76 are the others. As I've said they can be picked !! Enjoy the ride
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Had the luck to pick my second 1878 S V81 a few weeks ago. It should go VF20-ish. It's not as nice as my MS63pl, but still a fine pick for melt
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