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Tomioka Tominon 17mm F4 (17tt)

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I just pulled out a Tominon 17mm f4 lens I bought as part of a full set that was used with the Polaroid MP4 system. The lenses are generally very good, though the 135 and 105 are middle of the road in quality. The 75 is very good, a bit better than a 75ELN, while the 35 is even better and covers up to 5x well. I generally don't go beyond 4-5x, as that covers the "money shot" for Lincoln RPMs where the entire date and MM can be captured in a single frame. But since the Tominons seem to keep getting better as focal length shortens, I thought I'd try the 17 at minimum magnification to compare. As it turns out, the 35 is good wide open, and the 17 follows the same trend. At f4 it looks excellent, and is sharp enough to require a 6-image stack. Here is an example image using the 17TT at the lowest magnification I can achieve on the bellows:

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The 17TT has three problems:
1) It has a built-in extension that I suppose is designed for parfocality with the 35TT, but limits the minimum magnification to around 6x
2) It uses the Copal-1 shutter thread (M40x0.75) so requires an adapter
3) Working distance is pretty small since the focal length is so short
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Really nice photo, Ray. It's seeing shots like this that really forced my hand in moving to a bellows setup. I've been watching Tominons, and from the discussion in previous threads here most of them have the m40x0.75 thread, right? I found this m40x0.75 -> m42x1 adapter on ebay from China:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/20061974627..._2321wt_1397

A bit pricier than the typical el cheapo m39 -> m42 adapter, but not too bad.
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That's pretty sharp! How does it compare with microscope objectives at similar magnifications?
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LB...that's the exact adapter that I am using. There are a few other adapters out there but that's actually the cheapest. Novoflex makes one that is very nice but will cost you >$50. You could do very well with a set of 17TT, 35TT, and 75TT to cover a wide range of magnifications on bellows with excellent results, and you'd only need one adapter...
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CF...It's actually as sharp or even sharper than the Nikon objectives I own, but I don't have any high-end Nikons like the CF Plan Apo 4x NA 0.2. That one will beat anything, but you will need to do 20 image stacks to take advantage of it. The 17TT seems to give a nice balanced performance with "only" 6 images required in the stack. Of course, if I used a StackShot there would be no issue other than wearing out the camera, but I still do stacks the old fashioned, manual way.
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