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How To Adjust White Balance

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 Posted 10/15/2012  2:39 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Old Dimes to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,
I am NO expert.
I am using a Canon Rebel XS body and a Tamron Macro 1:1 Lens 90mm, 1:2.8, exclusively for coin pictures.
Many times I have great results.
However, I am somewhat confused about the proper White Balance settings.
I think it most important to have the proper setting for Images where the subject coin is toned.
I have tried the axial method where the light source shines on the pane of glass and reflects 45 degrees to the coin and back to the lens.
My artificial light source is a 60 watt incandescent reflector lamp and two flexible goose neck lamps.
My camera is mounted on an old enlarger stand right above the coin.
sometimes I use white and most the time black backgrounds.
I know there is, or should be a way to set the WB to each light source.
the automatic WB setting is great, but most the time just not right.
Can anyone help please?
thank you
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 Posted 10/15/2012  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LaureateBust to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Quoting from a review of the XS:


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The Canon XS offers a full range of White Balance settings, including six presets, an Auto setting, and a Custom setting. The six presets include Daylight, Shade, Cloudy, Tungsten, Fluorescent, and Flash. The Custom setting bases color balance on a previous exposure, meaning you can snap an image of a white card and then base the color temperature on that image. The Rebel XS offers no option to set White Balance temperature directly.


Using this Custom setting I guess you would take a photo of a white card under the illumination you want to use and the camera will save that setting as Custom. Unfortunately you can't set the Kelvin temperature directly with the XS. There also seems to be a menu option to tweak the white balance of a given setting on two axes: blue-amber and magenta-green. If using the "Custom" method doesn't work, maybe you could set it to "Tungsten" and then tweak the colours from the menu if it doesn't look right.


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Fairly sophisticated, the white balance correction tool lets you shift the color balance toward more or less green, amber, magenta, or blue, using a +/-9 step grid format. You move a highlighted square through the grid to adjust the color balance. It's a slightly more advanced interface than we're used to seeing on digital cameras, but a useful one that greatly extends the camera's color corrective abilities.


Are all the bulbs that you would use at once during a single exposure of the same colour temperature?
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10/15/2012 3:11 pm
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 Posted 10/15/2012  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Old Dimes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wow, thank you for your fast and detailed help.
complicated..., but maybe not.I need to experiment with it.
I use either a simple 60 watt lamp,sometimes two, or the two goose neck units from Ikea mounted on the stand. they appear to be LED's
I have to try taking an image first of a white sheet and see what happens.
does that mean the WB is averaged to this white sheet? AND, does it have to be done before every shot?
what about using a black sheet? will it then still recognize lets say, a silver coin?
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The Custom white balance setting is designed to make its calculation of white balance from the light reflecting off a white surface. You should be able to simply take a photo of the white surface and then tell the camera to base its white balance off that photo. This only needs to be done once. If you camera can only remember one custom setting at a time though, then you'll have to set your custom white balance again when changing light sources.

Probably your incandescent lights and the LEDs are going to have two different colour temperatures. It is not possible to set the camera's white balance for both at the same time. For this reason, you generally don't want to mix lights of different colour temperatures. If you're not using incandescent and LED at the same time, no need to worry.

Here is the link to a video demonstrating setting of custom white balance on a Canon Rebel XSi - should be similar to your camera:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq3yzTPb1Ng
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10/15/2012 3:36 pm
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it took me reading the manual to figure out how to set mine on the T1i also. The P&S cameras I have had allowed you to just select manual WB and then point it towards a white background under the lights you were going to use and it would use it on the fly without having to take a picture to use the WB from. To be honest I like the P&S way better because you have to constantly set the WB if there is any lighting change at all but it is what it is
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