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austrokiwi Pillar of the Community 2087 Posts	Posted 12/21/2012 02:24 am Quote: Talking of thalers, I have a Theresia 1780 thaler which I would grade as just about vf. If only it was an original date :( I was wondering what the price of one of these is now. An Original Guenzburg(Burgau) mint MTT, only hypothesized but known to have been produced until this year, when three have come to the market is worth US$2000.00 ( undervalued IMHO) An Original Vienna mint strike 2-4 varieties sells for about the same. Known examples 15-20 An Original Prague mint strike is valued around â‚¬27000.00 But Krause lists it as only worth US$450( they have not updated the value in decades!). Only two examples of the Prague strike are known to exist. A modern Vienna mint re-strike( 1853-current time) Unless its an error coin is worth its bullion value about US$22.00 Edited by austrokiwi 12/21/2012 02:29 am Report this Post to the Staff
Sheencrofter Valued Member Ireland 201 Posts	Posted 12/21/2012 08:15 am Seeing these pries maybe I ought to make sure mine is a restrike. It weighs 28.2 grams and measures 40 mm. Is that enough to tell if it is an original or does it need a photo? Report this Post to the Staff
austrokiwi Pillar of the Community 2087 Posts	Posted 12/21/2012 08:32 am Do a quick search in this forum for Maria Theresa Thaler I recently posted photos of the original Guenzburg(98% confident) coin and the rarest variety of the Vienna mint 1780 strike. The Prague mint coin ( I have examined and handled one of the two known to exist) is unique: Mint signature is on the reverse "EvS- IK" and in the fourth quadrant(bottom right) of the Coat of Arms are the arms of Silesia and Morovia ( two eagles). Report this Post to the Staff
Sheencrofter Valued Member Ireland 201 Posts	Posted 12/22/2012 10:50 am I did the search and found it very interesting. And I found this by Swampbob "One of the differences noted above is the shape of the you in AUST. There are two letter shapes you and V. This one has U. I just want to make the you vs V distinction clear - all MTT's made during Maria's lifetime have the round U. All copies with V are restrikes made after her death, but there is a small group of varieties that use the Round you and which were struck shortly AFTER her death (up to 1805) - all are scarce and in general are on a par with originals in value. So if you have a MTT with the round you it has to be one of the following Hafner types: (originals in red)." As a result of these comments I now know that mine is a restrike because mine has the V rather than the you in AUST Report this Post to the Staff
austrokiwi Pillar of the Community 2087 Posts	Posted 12/22/2012 12:09 pm Yep thats one of the references Here is the one I was referring to ( I was very lazy in not giving the link earlier) https://goccf.com/t/132629 Report this Post to the Staff
Sheencrofter Valued Member Ireland 201 Posts	Posted 12/22/2012 5:11 pm I've just taken a look there. Fascinating stuff. I shall know who to ask when I'm thinking of buying another MTT. Report this Post to the Staff
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