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I would like to start collecting Thaler coins from various countries.
The problem is, I don't really know much about them aside from general bios.
Does anyone know of any written reference that focuses specifically on that sub-set of coinage to help educate me. It doesn't necessarily need to include prices (I can possibly get those from krause), but that would be nice.
I couldn't find one.
If not, does anyone know of any good reference that deals with European coinage of the relevant centuries, which would obviously discuss Thaler coins as part.
I think they're fasinating, and I want to start buying some, but every time I look at an auction, I get apprehensive because I don't know what I would be buying exactly.
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I'm familiar with wikipedia pages.
This is all stuff I already do know. What I need is something that covers these types of coins from a numismatic point of view. Reading basic thaler history doesn't encompass most of the coins in existence and doesn't equip me with any knowledge on how to make educated purchases of such coins.
What I would love is something like a Whitman series paperback like the ones covering all US series in great depth. Now I already know that such a guide was never published by whitman for thaler coinage, but I'm hoping somebody knows of something similar.
Does anybody else collect these coins btw. How did you get started? I know many people collect greek, roman, and other ancients, but what thaler (and other old European coinage).
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10/15/2012 7:12 pm
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I ran across a site last week that was a nice general read, that opened my eyes. I cant affix a link w/this goog chrome.
From various countries to counterstamps. Type in "Maria Theresa thaler 1780" That ought to do it.
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You may want to PM Zohar444 on this forum. I haven't heard from him in a while but he has quite the collection of Thalers. I'm sure he is knowledgeable on the subject and reference material. nlp
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Lots of good material here. Thank you.
Zohar's new website was almost depressing lol. That's what I call a collection. It was like thinking about collecting early US gold and then going to check out the Smithsonian collection to see where you stand. He has so much, and in such amazing condition. That has got a be a 6-figure collection on upwards. Great website though.
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Identifying the year/mint of the MTT's seems difficult, as aesthetically they are all virtually identical. Lovely coin though, I must say. I get them from time to time from my dealer at less than melt, which makes me happy. I have yet to find a flip that will hold them in a standard page though.
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English language books aren't overly helpful on thalers. For the Austrian thalers: two German references I would recommend are:Corpus Nummorum Regni Maria Theresiae by Tassilo Eypeltauer. First couple of chapters are all script so if you can't read German they won't help. But the rest is very much like a catalogue and even though in german it won't take you long to get a handle on the info. The next suggestion really needs A solid basic understanding of German Taler and Schautaler des Erzhauses Habsburg by Rudolf Voglhuber. I had a look at the taler Universe website most interesting.........was a bit surprised to see many of the coins are slabbed: 18th century Habsburg Talers are a three sided coins......the edges vary depending on the mint.....slabbing hides the edges At timesI find I have to break the slab to confirm the variety.
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Hi there - just saw this thread. I started off collecting US materials long ago yet at some point ran across Davenport's European Crown series and got hooked. Then focused on the more defined Habsurg (Austro-Hungarian, Austrian States etc.). I would start from there, Voglhuber is a great book (have an extra copy) and Krause is always good to keep.
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Talking of thalers, I have a Theresia 1780 thaler which I would grade as just about vf. If only it was an original date :(
I was wondering what the price of one of these is now.
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Bullion, I believe. I got a BU Thaler for below melt.
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Just be beware that most of the more popular and pricey European Thaler sized coins have been faked.
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My dealer doesn't deal in fakes. He is actually the expert the local police use when they suspect they have counterfeit notes/coins.
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Posted 10/15/2012 7:09 pm
