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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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So when is a toned coin really toned or badly cleaned. I sent this beauty in to be graded and it came back "cleaned". What do you guys think?  
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Valued Member
Canada
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I think it's a beautiful penny  Maybe TPGs can tell by the spatial pattern of toning whether it has been cleaned. For example, this penny seems predominantly toned on the reverse design, much less so in the fields. Perhaps that suggests that it was cleaned a long time ago and then it preferentially toned over the cleaned parts?
Edited by LaureateBust 10/18/2012 09:15 am
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New Member
Canada
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I have one nearly the same, same year. have also the others. they look nearly identical who was the TPG?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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i have the other view on this topic, toning and dark toning to my thinking destroys a coin imho
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Moderator
 Canada
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Nice die clash on that Nova Scotia cent...
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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That's a beautiful NS cent. Cleaned or not, I like it.
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Valued Member
Canada
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What was the grade also ?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
627 Posts |
PGCS returned it "cleaned"
What do you think the grade is?
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Valued Member
Canada
331 Posts |
Do you mean they refused to grade it on the basis that it has been cleaned at some point? Cleaning issues aside, I'd estimate MS-63: I can't see any wear, strike is really nice, fields are pretty clean. If cleaning precludes a grade of MS, then it would have to be top AU. Now that I think of it, has anyone seen a TPG certified coin that is both MS and cleaned?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I thought I've seen coins graded by ICCS that say cleaned under the description. What determines if they will or will not grade a cleaned coin?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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CanadaBanknotes, Most toned coins I've seen have rainbow or sunshine tonings to them. https://goccf.com/t/130479Although I don't have a Canadian example of something like this, I still favour this one a lot. Well, I heard that Rainbow toning could be done artificially. This is why I perfer my unique green toning.
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New Member
Canada
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That N.S cent has been cleaned with something to remove the natural dark tone, maybe even silver dip. Then burnished or probably heated with a flame, that will give the blues. Sad, seeing its probably at least AU
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
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