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Bedrock of the Community
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I have to say no, this coin doesn't look MS to me at all. I was thinking AU-50 at best but I am not sure how these things were struck to really be sure. The letters look awful strong to be a weak strike though. It just doesn't look MS to me but it does seem to still have quite a bit of luster on the coin.
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sorry guys mind ya I aint an expert but it looks MS to me but I think it is already overpriced at $25
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MS61 yes MS64 not so much...very baggy....imo
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Actually has a nice look. Hard to grade from photos and remember pics can show way more flaws than the naked eye.
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My feeling is its probably a little over graded, but the strike itself looks pretty good. I'm not that familiar with this one as I've yet to pick one up myself, but my guess would be this coin looked better when graded. I kind of have a gut feeling it may not have been stored very well or they may have tried to speed up the toning for a higher price but its so old a lot of things could have given it that look. Quote:
it looks MS to me but I think it is already overpriced at $25 If you agree with the grade its about a $900 dollar coin. If you just think its MS, MS 60 is about $500. Even F12 coins are 200-250ish, I wouldnt say $25 is overpriced imo |
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Hard to grade from photos Normally I would agree, but these photos are purdy darn good... eKOfbQBQf10Qu99w~~60_57.jpg)  |
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The coin appears to be an undipped, original coin that has acquired pleasant toning over its years. It does have some noticeable bag marks, but I don't believe the coin is grossly over-graded -- MS-63 / MS-64 seems about right. It has a stronger strike than some I've seen. I have a feeling that this one is more attractive in hand vs. the images included with the lot. Quote:
If you agree with the grade its about a $900 dollar coin. If you just think its MS, MS 60 is about $500. Even F12 coins are 200-250ish, I wouldnt say $25 is overpriced imo I believe you may be thinking about a different coin. An 1893 Columbian Expo half is about a $100 coin in MS-64 (per the current Greysheet). At its current price, I would call the coin an exceptional buy. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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I believe you may be thinking about a different coin. An 1893 Columbian Expo half is about a $100 coin in MS-64 (per the current Greysheet). At its current price, I would call the coin an exceptional buy. As always you are 100 percent correct  . For some reason I saw the 1800s date and immediately thought of the Isabella Quarter. My apologizes |
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I agree the coin is graded as it shoud be MS-64
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Put me in the column of... at least I think it is really close to a 64. Areas of concern are above the fartherest to the right sail (although I do believe this is just additional toning), cheek and lower portion of the hair on obverse. The fields appear to be superb! It is beautiful
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The coin appears to be an undipped, original coin that has acquired pleasant toning over its years. I understand you are more knowledgeable than I am on this series but no one said the coin looked dipped or even cleaned so that has no bearing on what anyone has said and actually is probably why everyone said AU instead of XF, it looks like it has plenty of luster but also looks like it has definite wear which is exactly what "Almost Uncirculated" means. I admit I am not a commem collector but will tell you if I were looking for one of these I would pass right by it myself and look for one I agreed was a true MS-64 even though the experts of the series has already chimed in saying they agree with the grade. I have seen this type in an AU slab look better than this coin does and would buy one of those over this one |
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...no one said the coin looked dipped or even cleaned so that has no bearing on what anyone has said... Am I not allowed to begin my response with a comment on my impressions of the coin's overall appearance and my opinion regarding its surfaces? Many collectors are, in fact, interested in a coin's overall appearance and originality in addition to its technical grade. I made no disparaging comments re: anyone else's opinions, so I'm not sure why I was singled out in your response. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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well I may have blown it on pricing I didnt think a MS64 would have that much value because I see these 93s all the time at just above spot amd many are AU+
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I see two sets of photos that were taken under different lighting conditions. The cropped photos were lit to maximize toning colors while the full slab photos were lit to maximize luster. Columbians have notoriously low relief and typically look kind of scruffy unless it is just an absolute gem, they just do not lend themselves to being attractive coins. I have no problems with the 64 grade, there are no major hits at all, plenty of luster, and the lines of the middle sail are well-defined which would not be the case if this coin had seen circulation.
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