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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Dipping is not cleaning.
'Cleaning' means a moderate to strong 'rub' with some kind of abrasive cloth leaving definite hairlines or 'grooves'.
This coin is obviously 'cleaned'.
I wouldn't buy it because it is a problem coin.
Edited by doubleeagle59 10/21/2012 2:41 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Curious , if you dip a coin are you not removing some of the original surface Hence cleaned ? It is no longer original , it has been tampered with so why would it not be considered cleaned ?
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Valued Member
Canada
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Fellow posters , I think Art is seriously talking himself into buying a problem coin. To answer your question Art yes I have seen and owned much better in 1885 25 cents. In the last year have sold a no problem original ICCS VF 20 and a pretty light grey original raw F 15. Generally speaking when we talk about cleaned coins we mean abrasively cleaned not dipped or soaked in sudsy ammonia. This coin does have evidence of abrasive cleaning from the pix. It is in no way a premium example. If you want a nice 1885 wait! They do come along. Patience is a virtue in numismatics. Have fun and remember one little snippet of advice when it comes to RARE coins, pleasing examples will not only make you happy, when sold it will make the next owner happy as well. Problem coins just make you miserable in the end.
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Quote: Fellow posters , I think Art is seriously talking himself into buying a problem coin. To answer your question Art yes I have seen and owned much better in 1885 25 cents. In the last year have sold a no problem original ICCS VF 20 and a pretty light grey original raw F 15. Generally speaking when we talk about cleaned coins we mean abrasively cleaned not dipped or soaked in sudsy ammonia. This coin does have evidence of abrasive cleaning from the pix. It is in no way a premium example. If you want a nice 1885 wait! They do come along. Patience is a virtue in numismatics. Have fun and remember one little snippet of advice when it comes to RARE coins, pleasing examples will not only make you happy, when sold it will make the next owner happy as well. Problem coins just make you miserable in the end.

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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 Patience! Personally would rather have a G example problem free....but to each his own.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Art, if you consider dipping to be cleaning and therefore a 'problem coin', then 90% of brilliant white coins pre 1950 should be bodybagged as such.
I remember going to coin shows in Toronto in the mid 1970's and you couldn't find a toned coin in the whole room because dipping coins to get blast white coins was the rage back then.
Dealers were dipping coins behind their showcases during the show!
A true untouched silver coin from the early 1900's would almost be black today due to the natural processes of tarnishing.
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Pillar of the Community
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I agree , so in reality dipping is then a cleaned coin.... This is all I was getting at .... I was reading an article from a coin place and in there they say that all methods are cleaned..
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Pillar of the Community
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whats with the cartoon ? If we are getting personal I would advise not to ...
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I think this one has gone far enough. Opinions have been given and none of them are going to change. 
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