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SMS Kennedy Half - MS-66 Cameo Or MS-67 Brilliant?

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I have been putting together my Birth Year Set of coins and I am down to the Half Dollar. Would you choose a MS66 Cameo or MS67 Brilliant Half Dollar? The other four are brilliant, but I could always upgrade them later on.

What do you think?

Thanks for your feedback!

These are potential candidates.

SMS-Kennedy-Half---MS-66-Cameo-Or-MS-67-Brilliant?

SMS-Kennedy-Half---MS-66-Cameo-Or-MS-67-Brilliant?

SMS-Kennedy-Half---MS-66-Cameo-Or-MS-67-Brilliant?

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I would go with anything 65 or up if its cameo over any grade of brilliant... Especially with SMS Kennedy's. tough coins in cameo
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I'm a sucker for cameo coins.
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Definitely go cameo.
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Without a doubt I would take the cameo. Beautiful and tough to find. My 2 cents
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I would go for the cameo.
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Definately the cameo! Finding a cameo coin in one of the SMS's is TOUGH. I looked through my share at dealers and shows. I think most of them have already been plucked.
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If I'm correct only proof coins get cameo designation. Mint state can get a prooflike designation
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Nm I saw the pics and am wrong! Get the cameo!
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I can certainly agree with the beauty of Cameos, I am not seeing much difference in between the two coins in the OP, other than the slab label.

SMS-Kennedy-Half---MS-66-Cameo-Or-MS-67-Brilliant?

SMS-Kennedy-Half---MS-66-Cameo-Or-MS-67-Brilliant?

I am looking at a few and will report back with my purchase!


Here is what I have so far;

SMS-Kennedy-Half---MS-66-Cameo-Or-MS-67-Brilliant?
Thanks!
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10/24/2012 11:38 am
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I'd pass on both and look for a Cameo that borders on Deep Cameo. That cameo doesn't have cameo eye appeal. they are out there.
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I would go with the brilliant but would look for one that truly shines. This is what the coin was intended to be at this time, with cameos being an artifact associated with very early die state strikes. If you decide to go with a cameo, don't just settle for one that is labeled as such, hold out for one that is undeniably so, as though it was struck with a die that was intended to produce cameo coins. Get one that, like modern ultra cameos, is cameo in any light and doesn't need to be held just right to see it. Personally, I would still prefer one that is just as undeniably fully brilliant, with no signs of frost or toning. I don't think that either one of the coins you show is good enough for either definition, both coins appear to be close to the cutoff between cameo and brilliant and because of that I would keep looking no matter which way you decide to go.
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Both are low value why not add both to your collection?
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I would tend to pick a cameo over a slightly higher grade normally (especially out of a SMS), but I'm not so sure about this one.

On the Cameo the smudge near the 8 O'clock position bothers me a little whether it is a blemish from handling, or something else. This one also has a small edge corona in several areas that might have been a start of edge oxidation before it was slabbed. Its hard to tell from the photograph, but thats something you see a lot in SMS 40% halves.

If it were me, I would pass on that one and keep looking for a superior cameo while they are still reasonable in price.
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Have you seen the prices for Ultra/Deep Cameos? While these two examples are about $40 - $50, Ultra/Deep Cameos get up there in price really quick!

FMV Prices (MS61-MS70)

MS61 ----

MS62 ----

MS63 25.30

MS64 66.00

MS65 99.60

MS66 200.00

MS67 940.00

MS68 3,030.00

MS69 ----

MS70 ----

http://www.numismedia.com/cgi-bin/c...de2=pricesms
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