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1922 "No D" Lincoln Wheat Cent?

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I recently bought this penny on e-bay, where it was listed as a 1922 penny with a weak D mint mark. Although after receiving it and examining it for a long time with a 10x coin magnifier I do not see a D mint mark at all. Is it possible that the seller mistook it as a D mint mark? This seems to be a little too good to be true considering a 1922 penny with no D can easily be worth $600+... I uploaded some pics of it but the second "2" in the date may not be easily seen from the pic

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I beleive the rule is if you can see anything, its a weak D
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Seems fair. Still, how much do you think this penny would be worth in the condition you see as a weak D 1922?
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Is it possible that the seller mistook it as a D mint mark?


Denver was the only mint to produce cents in 1922.

It's hard to tell in the pictures but you might have a die pair 1 or 4 coin. Compare your coin to this website:

http://www.lincolncentresource.com/...rieties.html
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I have had a bit of experience with these coins and in my opinion what you have is die pair #1 with a weak D. It is somewhat difficult to tell from these pics and I can't even guarantee it's authentic when it's this worn and I only see a 3 - 4 inch coin pictured. Assuming it's authentic, I'm about 90% sure it's die pair #1, with the other 10% being die pair #4. As far as seeing 'D' or not. Maybe my mind is playing tricks on me, but I think I can see one from where I sit.
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Better pictures of the coin out of the flip would definitely help. Considering the coin's grade, it won't hurt it to be out of a 2x2 for a moment to take some better, better lit pictures.

As has been mentioned above, if ANYTHING is showing, it's a "weak D".

The real No Ds are quite controversial. Wheat collectors get downright belligerent on both sides of the argument. If for no other reason than to see some passionate collectors get riled up, you picked quite a conversation starter! Congrats!
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I find the whole "no D, weak D" with different die pairs quite amusing. Of course I would not buy a 1922 with no D that was not in a slab. (I will probably never get one)

I wonder how many 1921 no D pennies there are out there.
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Die pair #2, the one worth all the money, has a strong reverse and no hint of a "d".
My point is the reverse plays a major part in determining the die pair.
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Only the one with the die 2 rev is called a No D. Dies 1, 3, and 4 are Weak D even if there is no trace of the D visible.
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I agree.

For the record, I fully intend to put an inexpensive and worn out "weak D" in the 1922-D "Plain" hole in my Dansco album.
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Just because I want to post mine again.
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Just because I want to post mine again.
No excuse required, just because I wanted to look at yours again.
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Only the one with the die 2 rev is called a No D. Dies 1, 3, and 4 are Weak D even if there is no trace of the D visible.

I have seen coins labeled as No D, weak reverse from PCGS, NGC, and ANACS.

Tough to say if the coin is a Weak D or No D as some of the Weak D's almost look like No D's.
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None of this really matters if you just want to fill that silly hole in an Album. Regardless of no D or weak D, unless your planning on selling it, makes little difference. If you can not see the D yourself, just put it in the empty spot in your Album and forget it all. I've got them in seveal Albums and if no D or weak D, as long as I'm not selling them, makes no difference to me.
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I just wish Album manufacturers would stop putting that slot in the Albums for an error coin.
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The 22d is an odd coin, I hate how Dansco includes that in their album, it makes no sense.
If you look up the Lincoln Cent Resource they have a great article on how to determine which 22d you have, and the die pairs. Has pictures and everything for those of us who like the visual more than the words.
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Beside all the points/discussion have been posted regarding weak/no D, I see another aspect that the OP put up: The value of week D vs no D.

I'm no fan of the weak/no D thing and will probably, like others, put a weak D into the no D slot just to fill it up. If the OP is similar to me and other on our weak/no D approach then he's had scored a great (despite unintended) purchase, if his coin turn out to be "no D" (very unlikely, as other expert have mentioned).
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