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Zookeeperz, I agree, a very stunning group, the 1927 6d is in my opinion as nice as they get (UNC?) and the 1922 definitely in the EF almost EF level with a nice tone, and very even nice light wear (The orb on the crown and the lions nose).
The Florin is a stunner too and you can see the weak strike on the lower 2 lions of the top shield. Still easily a gEF/even AU coin to me, easy for people to confuse weak strike with wear, the fact it has a full lustre here also suggests it between AU and gEF rather than near EF.
Agree about the rupee, and you have one heck of a microscope as no one could pick up that test mark with a naked eye. The small dot I can see at the bottom of the coin too, suggests Delhi or Calcutta mint (I get it mixed up).
Getting those De Saulles coins in high grades like that in 1920s are very hard and I only have a couple of shillings and a toned EF florin. The 1910s are easier along with Kruger Grey ones.
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04/06/2022 10:22 pm
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Okay I brought and paid for all this stuff on Tuesday and its on its way now (Its 2pm Thursday here). First a trio of very nice halfcrowns. This new dealer sells cheap, but a lot of his material is cleaned (Likely between the 1960s to 1980s as the natural tone is starting to obliterate the cleaning agents which are likely some silvery acid or chloric acid?) I was a bit reticient about buying some of these, but they are replacing extremely worn coins in every case. As you will see the later Florins are not cleaned and just regular high grade examples. This first coin is a 1817 Halfcrown which is the earlier Bull head type.   This is a good example that lands clearly in the low - mid VF zone - there is a lot of detail here and only light to moderate wear on the more intricate parts of the coins. A lot of wreath and berries are visible. Some unfortunate cleaning mars it and a couple of dings and scratches as well (It was about £35) in British money. The next 2 coins are late Victorian   This 1900 halfcrown I suspect may not be cleaned at all, or if it was, it was a very long time ago (Over 50 years). There is a natural feel to the lustre. Condition wise it lands squarely in the highest VF/low EF area with again a nice even light wear on high parts (Veils, garter belts, rim) and light rubbing in other places. This is a nice piece and probably a very honest one.   This 1901 is better conditionwise (Well into EF territory), but marred by some very bad cleaning. It has destroyed the lustre and made it a details coin only - although a very nice one and a worthwhile replacement to the Fair coin I have. But at least that coin is real - the clown who did this to a high grade coin, needs to be  Please people - don't clean coins, especially high grade ones like this! The later halfcrowns cost me $79 each which is about £42 (The dollar is high against the £ at the moment - 53p) Edited by Princetane
04/06/2022 10:36 pm
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4 Pretty little Florins, starting with a 1928 in high EF condition.   I doubt this has been cleaned (Not old enough) and its swimming with lustre, again the sellers photo will not do it justice and like most KGV coins I have brought off him, it will be a real bobby dazzler when it arrives. Its probably my 2nd best of this type, better than my 29/30 and not quite as good as the 36 I brought a few weeks ago.   1939 - Another AU piece (Although its hard to detect wear on British AU coins, but its there), another coin guaranteed to rob me of any remaining eyesight when I get it. This is the start of me getting florins of this era (KGVI silver) to match the stunning halfcrowns I have of it already.   1942 UNC - this is the real thing and the full UNC, so I guess I can compare this coin to anything else purpoting to be UNC - just looking at that lustre I realise this coin is a stunner on the level of the Gainn and Hogarth masterpieces we have been seeing.   1943 AU - this coin also has the start of a tone on it and another nice piece. the joy of AU coins, is you still get the lustre and that even goes down to EF and sometimes higher VF ones. I missed out on a 1940 Florin of similar quality, but secretly glad as the coin had the black stuff creeping across it. This will likely be my last big buy in for a while, although these 7 cost me in total less than some of my better halfcrowns. |
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Nice lot of Silver there Prince. Here is something different. Not my usual thing at all . Mainly because these do cost quite a lot of money even when they are knackered. Absolute corker this 26.9g almost an ounce of .925 Silver 1930 Trade dollar. Beware these are one of the most faked coins ever struck. Thankfully the fakes are quite crude but for the novice collector I doubt they would pick up on it. Normally I would nearly always say if it seems to good to be true it is. Yet that kind of is a half truth with coins. Depending who is on the side that gains. A seller cannot be expected to know every coin and variety in the world But I was just couldn't believe this iconic and very well known coin would come my way for the measly sum of £50 inc overseas shipping +VAT. Needless to say a very happy bunny this easter I shall be :)     |
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Lovely, love the intricate detail on that coin. The Easter bunny has delivered for you.
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The Easter Bunny delivered for me too.   1911 shilling, barely fine - but for some reason 1911 dated coins have always proved difficult to find in New Zealand. I still don't have a 1911 Florin, Halfpenny, Sixpence or Threepence yet. The next are some upgrade shots comparing new acquired coins with the ones they are replacing. First the 1817 Halfcrowns.   The extremely worn coins I referred to in another post are these ones. The coin I had may have been the worst Halfcrown I own, it would not even be aGood and possibly just Fair. The VF replacement is almost from another world, and yet it cost only 3 times as much as the worn one!   1900 gVG to cleaned EF - the next coins are not quite as extreme upgrades. This upgrade was cleaned with some ammonia like solution probably in the 60s and to be honest the coin its replacing is more worn but in my opinion may be more acceptable as its more "real".   From VG to EF - but again marred by cleaning and dipping - little regrowth of tone, so likely dipped only a few years ago sadly. The dip has marred the detail a bit. |
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These florins are not as extreme, but proof that high grade examples always look good for these complex designs. Again my cheap cellphone camera takes mediocre shots of shiny coins.  1928 from barely Fine to gEF - a real improvement here, this design always looks good in high grade, less good when worn. For some reason, I forgot to take a photo of the obverse.   1939 from gFine to AU - the before coins of this era, are already very satisfactory, but again high grade coins really bring out Kruger Grey's designs so much more. Look at details on the rose, thistle and crown areas.   1942 from nearVF to full UNC, this coin is a real knockout and has the unmistakable signs of UNC coins, a misty lustre that is untouched by human fingers, photos don't do it justice.   1943 gFine to high AU - again you can see the contrast between a kind of okay coin and a fantastic one. |
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Nice upgrades, Princtane!  |
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I just brought another 17th century halfcrown!
And possibly another one after that!
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Okay you coin hounds. Easter holidays ensure I won't see it in the flesh for a week or more.   This one is a 1696 Great Recoinage Halfcrown minted in Bristol. The condition is generally fine on the shields side and closer to fair on the portrait, although Provincial mints had poor strikes overall. Possibly cleaned historically (Over 40 years ago). The variety is the large shields and small harp, the 2nd major type. I read the provincial recoinage coins were only made in 1696 and 1697, with 1698 - 1701 coins made at the Tower unless they were using 1697 dated dies after that year. These coins make me more interested in collecting Recoinage pieces a side collection. With this new coin and the 2 other halfcrowns and a shilling, it seems a good start. |
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