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Thanks - I weighed the half crown, it weighs 12.34grams meaning its lost 1.79 grams or about 13% of its weight!
The usual Fine coin weighs 2% less, VG about 4% and Good (British fair) 5 -7% less, VF and higher coins usually weigh within 1% for VF and ).4% for EF up unless an underweight planchet.
The shillings weighed 5.42 grams (1898) and 5.51 and 5.53grams (1904 and 1907) against a standard weight of 5.66 grams for a shilling.
In Comparison my 1920 Halfcrowns came back at 13.97 grams (Small head) and 14.01 grams (Large head) only 1 - 1.5% less than full weight of 14.13grams.
Just won the first decent coin, a VF 1817 Halfcrown (Bull Head).
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The new coins (And looking at this, you may think my most poorly used adjective ever!). New to you.  |
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Nice UNC fully lustred 1921 Penny . Much nicer than the pics show but that's a given really. F190 Obverse 2 Reverse B. This and the 1920 penny are notoriously bad for strike quality and 90% are streaky lustre. So these are normally above book price for anything resembling a uniform patina and lustre. I had a 1920 which I sold for £120 so there it shows quality will always defy the book prices   |
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Wow that one is a stunner and yes a really good strike for an era notorious for low quality and phoned in striking.
I envy you as that is gorgeous. The detail is bold and I love the colouring.
I am not a fan of slabbing, but I would get that slabbed for the sole reason of keeping the lustre intact, as it seems any air at all my start to dull it.
Meanwhile I have just brought a group of VF - AU florins and Halfcrowns of a similar era.
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I would get that slabbed for the sole reason of keeping the lustre intact, as it seems any air at all my start to dull it. It seems to have survived okay for 100 years without being slabbed. |
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It seems to have survived okay for 100 years without being slabbed. Yes I don't think slabs are anywhere near airtight either, although they will offer some protection. Some (non-slab) capsules include protective inserts to take chemicals out of the air (like Quadrum Intercept). You could also store it with a packet of dessicant silica gel. |
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Nice UNC fully lustred 1921 Penny Beautiful!  |
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It seems to have survived okay for 100 years without being slabbed. Yeah you guys are right, had a brain black out and forgot about capsules. Plus he is in the UK, coins survive better in their cool climate. Its just where I live in Auckland New Zealand where its always 23 degrees and 99% humidity, any copper coin with lustre not under layers of protection becomes a green gungy mess before too long! I won 7 of the 8 coins I bid on last night (A toned AU Florin from 1940 escaped me). Will be showing soon a 1817 Halfcrown, 1900 and 1901 EF Halfcrowns and AU/UNC Florins from 1928, 1939, 1942 and 1943. All of them will show "Aucklanned effects". |
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Those 1840s halfcrowns are really elusive Here's a 1848/6 (I think!), which I'm sure I managed to get cheap back in the good old days. It weighs 12.7g   Edited by otto
04/05/2022 4:18 pm
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Looks like 1849. I think you're correct Hogarth. I would guess this is the small date variety. |
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To be honest, the coin is so far gone, large or small date is irrelevant. Scrap value only.
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Scrap value only. I doubt I paid any more for it. Yet it is like holding a piece of history in one's hand. It's not just any piece of silver. |
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Probably not - even in that state they may be worth 1.5x - 2x scrap now - check ebay. My 1849 for comparison.  oops just realised you meant dateless coins, not ones that have a clear date on them like my joke 1846 halfcrown.   This is a VG or slightly better, but some clown cleaned the heck out of it years ago. It could be either 49 or 48 (Ottos coin). NONE of these 1839 - 1850 halfcrowns would be just scrap, unless it was fully dateless. Mintages were always low. only 1844, 45 and 46 were over a million, 1840, 42, 43 and 49, 50 were in the mid to low 6 figures and 1846/8 is scarce, 1841 is rare around 40k and 1839 no mintage given but my guess is 5 to 10k. I think too as these coins were used at least until 1874 as they were promoting florins is why so many are nasty.  Edited by Princetane
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