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Fantastic additions!  |
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Thanks for sharing! Never seen these tokens before! |
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Wait a minute! Princetane, just for the sake of clarity, you were kidding, right? You knew that this is the guy those tokens are named after, right? Not me?
 That's the 1968 reprint from Seaby, which is hard to find and pretty expensive, but the 1922 original is online and accessible in its entirety right here.
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Thank you jbuck and NumisRob! Just realized I could have included another reference work in my last post. Published in 1991, this one includes much of the history, sociology, and economics behind the non-regal silver "necessity coinage" of the Regency Period and provides background on virtually all of the individual tokens and their issuers. (Silver only, though...the Big Green Book by Paul and Bente Withers is the equivalent for the 1811-20 copper series.) Mr. Mays was kind enough to reproduce as an appendix an exact facsimile of the entire Dalton catalog!  Tokens are people coins too! 
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No I didn't I honestly know so little about tokens. Even my knowledge of New Zealand ones was basically be learnt on the fly as I went along.
Boy is my face red!
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I have just spend a lot of big money on some tiny coins. Just to prove to you all my interests are more broad than the modern bubblegum coins of Australia. These are satin chocolates in comparison. 2 very old Maundy pennies, both described as EF and probably not far off (gVF - aEF)   1825 Maundy Penny of George IV showing fleshy head   1835 Maundy Penny of William IV - nice piece and good detail It makes me wonder where the rest of these sets are and strange to see them with wear as by this stage the copper pennies were being made. |
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The reign of William IV saw almost as many coin denominations as that of Elizabeth I. We had the Halfcrown, Shilling, 6d, 4d, 3d and the 1d, ½d, ¼d and even half farthing. We also had these odd 1½d coins issued for Ceylon, Malta and West Indies, yet they saw use in the UK too. Not forgetting the Gold, although only the £1 and 10/- really circulated the £5 and £2 were more decorations only. The latter being just 200 or so pieces. I have 1834 the first year and a nice example (EF)   It is just so cute, dinky and no doubt a pain in the rear to keep on you, seriously its like 12mm in size!!   This 1836 one is even better - Finally a regular size coin - an 1834 Sixpence in VF   My William IV collection has definitely improved. These are not my photos either, but sellers - I can't even take a photo nicely of a Half Crown - I am going to be worse with a tiny 1½d or 1d coin! This little lot set me back over $200 in total! Edited by Princetane
08/12/2022 11:34 pm
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1710 Queen Anne Groat. Just purchased. Don't know if this was minted as a maundy coin. Seller's low res pics.   |
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Nice additions Princetane and Otto!
The silver 1d, 2d, 3d and 4d coins issued from the reign of Charles II through to the recoinage of 1816 are considered Maundy money, but they were definitely used in normal circulation. As far as I know it's only since 1816 that Maundy money has been made specifically for the ceremony.
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Thanks, NumisRob. Good info.
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Been trying to get decent photos of the 1928 florin I got recently, but I'm really struggling to get the toning to show properly (several hours of furrowed brows), so I'll just use the vendors photos for now. Modern cameras are very frustrating when they don't have an algorithm that matches the subject. Once I get good shots I'll edit.   |
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Well that puts my 2 well into the Maundy era. The wear on them and my 1857 penny suggests either we had 6 or 7 generations of dirty fingered people handling them or they spent some time in circulation. Its plausible given the coins went out to impoverished pensioners, and this was before the old age pension and many lived in excrcuiating poverty until the early 1900s.
What was to stop old Robert Jones using his Maundy coins to buy some bread or an egg in 1842? So basically NumisRob I agree with you, but I believe Maundy coins could circulate right up to the era of the Old Age pensions (1898 in NZ, not sure when in UK). And even in 1898, the pension was small and racist (No Maoris or women), not until 1938 was it fully rolled out to all.
I love the Anna groat! It's only had light circulation, but enough to not be able to tell if it was Maundy or not at one stage.
The Florin image is as sharp as it gets.
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Excellent additions! That 1928 Florin looks good from here. |
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I like that florin a lot!
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I like that florin a lot! I felt a bit silly at first because I paid a over the odds (£25) for it. I thought it had a pretty interesting look, and sometimes you get lucky. In hand it's better than I was hoping and worth every penny.  |
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