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 Posted 08/31/2023  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daltonista to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Publius, I agree 100%. I'd estimate that I spent an hour last week trying to search for traces of the Glastonbury Music Society using HathiTrust and JSTOR...same experience: quicksand!

My biggest impediment, I'm certain, is that I live on the wrong continent.

(But thanks for introducing me to the Notes and Queries!)



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 Posted 09/10/2023  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daltonista to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Included in a batch of recent auction wins arriving on my doorstep last week -- well, in my P.O. box -- was this gilt proof 1811 one-penny self-portrait token issued by Edward Thomason of Birmingham.

Withers 281b, RRR; Davis Warwickshire 48, R.r.; 34mm, 18.5g.
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In all likelihood specimens like this one were distributed the way we use business cards today, solely as advertising pieces for Thomason's business, which was the production of tokens and other fine metalworks. In their comments on this token in their definitive work on the 1811-1820 series of British coppers, Paul and Bente Withers plagiarize Davis a bit in describing Thomason as "an eminent medallist and manufacturer of bronzes [who] received a knighthood in 1832 for being instrumental in improving the Arts and Manufactures."

In addition to a series of Jean Dassier's noted medals, among Thomason's better known issues were the copper pennies and halfpennies of the Fereday iron and lead works in Bilston and Hull, and -- perhaps his pride and joy -- the gold 40-shilling token struck for J.B. Monck of Reading in Berkshire.

Thomason also produced Picard's Peninsular tokens in vast quantities ("upwards of two millions," he wrote) to commemorate Wellington's victories in the continental wars of the era. Because they circulated so widely in Canada -- and well past their expiration date in Britain thanks to the reinstatement of regal coinage -- these are now collected primarily as Canadian tokens.



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 Posted 09/10/2023  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Glastonbury Mystery deepens...
Maybe it's Arthurs fault.
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 Posted 09/12/2023  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another Provincial Token to add to the Peter Kempson "Gates and Building" Set I'm working on. This is a rare 5th reverse George Frederick Handel with St. Mary Hall on the obverse. In a superb condition with luster and great color. Very pleased to get this one to add in the set.

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Daltonista - a really super nice condition gilted penny-token there! Obviously it didn't see much circulation that reverse is so clean. Nice addition.

I agree sometimes I think I was born on the bit of land and the wrong era as well.
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 Posted 09/12/2023  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How many of these "Händel" tokens are there? I could get one for my Symphony Set.
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How many of these "Händel" tokens are there? I could get one for my Symphony Set.


More than enough I'd say. There are also the Norwich DH 34-37 halfpennies that have a similar bust except Handel has a bit more hair on his head. There is also DH 121-123 (also Norwich) there is another Handel bust where he is wearing his normal wig.

Prices on the type I posted are regularly around the 200 GBP mark or $270-$350 USD, of course depending on the condition.

There is also the Middlesex DH-300 of Dodd's Musical Instruments with Handel on the obverse (in his wig again). That one runs under $100 in really nice condition.
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 Posted 09/12/2023  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info, westcoin.
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 Posted 09/13/2023  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zookeeperz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing special but 2 really nice coins that are very affordable 1918 George V Bronze Farthing. The official positions is all farthings were darkened from 1902-1918 not quite sure if the backend of Victoria widowed series was included. But it was done to combat the farthing being mistaken for sovereigns.

I don't buy that for 1 second as sovereigns had George and the dragon reverse and not Britannia as the farthings do so if someone isn't going to be bothered to look at the reverse of a coin of such high value well they deserve everything they get for being a total plonker

Also a really excellent example of an Irish 1952 Penny not used in the UK per say but Irish coins were struck both in UK and in Ireland so a fringe coin I like to call it
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Nice additions, zookeeperz! I believe the Victorian Veiled Head farthings were officially darkened from 1897. I think the reason they started it was because for the first time the farthing and the half-sovereign had identical obverses: up to 1895 the farthings used the 'bun' portrait, which was unique to bronze coins, but from that year they switched to the veiled head that was already used on silver and gold coins. Maybe there were a few complaints from people confusing mint-new farthings with half-sovereigns in 1895-6?

I don't see why you shouldn't include a nice Irish penny in a collection of British coins. Prior to Decimalization, Irish bronze coins and the shilling, florin and halfcrown circulated widely and were accepted in Northern Ireland alongside UK coins, and occasionally turned up in change in mainland Great Britain. (The nickel Irish 3d and 6d coins were of a different specification to UK coins and didn't circulate in the UK). Even now I still occasionally find Irish decimal 1p and 2p coins in circulation, although they haven't been legal tender since Ireland switched to the Euro in 2002!
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A couple of upgrades just loaded into my collection:

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Very nice!
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Another one of those boxes we have ticked Scarcer Die pairing Obverse 1 Reverse C Shallow Portrait With the smaller reverse. Taken a while to find one and in a condition acceptable . Pictures always my nemesis but its all of AU and always happy when I tick a box which seems to take a lifetime . 1928 .500 Silver Halfcrown Davies 1703. Now the search is on for Dies 2+B1
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